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Revamped Beromat-type Bandits

Postby stoxman22 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:55 pm

I have just got this machine from ebay and would like to know if anyone can help identify the maker. There are no manufacturing lables or mark anywhere that I can see. I am guessing it is a 1960s machine looking at the style, but any info on maker or age would be helpful.

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Revamped Beromat-type Bandits

Postby daveslot » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:54 pm

These are recased German Beromats. I have had one with the makers name on. I think these revampers came from Southend.

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Revamped Beromat-type Bandits

Postby pennymachines » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:37 pm

As Dave says, the mech. will be from a 1950s German Beromat-type wall bandit by Gunter Wulff. They swamped the UK market in the late fifties. Some UK companies such as AMECO did a nice trade in revamping them for British use. This usually involved converting them to the Penny and sometimes "improving" them by covering the wood veneers with nice clean, modern plastic laminates. A few companies went further and converted the wall machines into counter-top bandits, the Duchess being the most common. Someone out there must remember who made these. I have an odd little metal penny pusher called Razzle Dazzle which uses exactly the same coin entry and I believe it also originated from Southend-on-Sea.

Another common type has a curved, vaguely jukebox-style, coloured plastic front. These were manufactured for Ruffler and Walker I think.

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Revamped Beromat-type Bandits

Postby stoxman22 » Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:35 pm

Thanks for that.

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Beromats and conversions

Postby malcymal » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:59 pm

Topic merged- site Admin.

Came across one today in Brighton in a flea market, this one was stunning. I think Badpenny said they were spruced up for the UK market by creating different cases?!?!. Couldn't take a photo as I was on the way to a graduation.
It was metal, immaculate condition, same footprint as the Beromat wall machines, yellow perspex front (I assume this lights up) the reel strips were like mint, on 1d play. They don't have the keys so I couldn't look inside, (not an issue, my old locksmith can work out keys into locks). Everything looked superb. I'm gonna ring them tomorrow as the seller wasn't there and get more details. (It has a badge on it: "ROMA"). Does this mean anything to anybody?!?!
I generally find them quite ugly to look at, but this one was something else though, so if I get it, I will get the pics online.

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Re: Beromat on Ebay

Postby willborl » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:36 pm

Hi malcymal.
What a good find, sounds like a lovely orginal machine.
Do post the pictures though if you get it mate :D
Sorry don't think I know the machine. But I'm sure someone else will be able to help you with that.

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Re: Beromat on Ebay

Postby malcymal » Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:01 am

Okay, further info is the machine has been dry stored for many years and was in a cafe in Brighton. From its condition and presence of the reels it looks extremely good. OKAY, I might get it open and find bits amiss. Do you think £140 is too much?? My gut feeling is it's about right.
The smithy can work the keys for £20 and provide 2 sets of keys included. Are parts aplenty for these?? They look quite simplistic inside from photos I've seen??

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Re: Beromat on Ebay

Postby slotalot » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:10 pm

malcymal wrote:Came across one today in Brighton in a flea market, this one was stunning, i think Badpenny said they were spruced up for the uk market (it has a badge on it ROMA) does this mean anything to anybody?!?!
Hi malcymal :D ... I have just had a thought :idea: .... if it has been spruced up maybe the castings have been cut and altered from?... BEROMAT.... ROMA.... stranger things have happened :!?!:

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Re: Beromat on Ebay

Postby malcymal » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:35 pm

Oh right, yes, I know where you are coming from. The badge itself looked unique. I'm contemplating whether to go and get this in the morning, I'm a bit nervous about it. I'm hoping to haggle him down if I go. One thing is, the handle. Can you guys tell me whether the handle can be pushed down in a Beromat without a coin in? (obviously not spinning anything)? I'm not aware of how the handle is actuated, or is it something like when the coin drops in, it actuates something that engages the handle to create tension and spin the reels? I remember this is what I could do on it yesterday, move the handle down without a coin, but the reels did not spin.

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Re: Beromat on Ebay

Postby coin-op » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:57 pm

My recollection is that the handle will move up and down freely. When a coin is inserted this connects the free moving part of the mech (basically the handle) with the main mechanism and allows for the machine mech to operate when the handle is pulled down.

Scrap mechs do turn up from time to time (say in amusement auctions), but they are often sought out by those with such machines as the mechs do suffer from broken parts due to their pot metal nature. And it can be a long time between the last one and the next one showing up.

My guess is that £140 is fair if it is complete and just needs a bit of TLC, but if it's locked and doesn't seem to work with a coin deposited then it could be an expensive gamble if there are problems with the mech. Remember, if you don't spend your money, you've still got it for the next bargain!

Oh, and another thing, I'm not so sure that keys are quite as easy to make for the locks found on this type of machine.


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