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Wulff/UK conversion Roma bandit identified

Postby pienziato » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:35 pm

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Hi, my name is Laurent and I live in Belgium,
I've bought a nice little machine, but I don't know anything about it...
Can someone give me information about a model, manufacturer and build year ?
Thanks
Laurent
( I will post some pictures of it )
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Re: What kind of Machine is this ?

Postby daveslot » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:48 pm

This is a recased Beromat type, so mech is 1950s German, case 1960s English.

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Re: What kind of Machine is this ?

Postby coppinpr » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:41 pm

Daveslot is, of course, right but if you're interested here is a little more info on the type of machine.
You can find many photos on this site of what the machine looked like when it was made, just search for Beromat. The reason it got rebuilt is this. Slot machines were only allowed to be built in Germany in the early 50s if they were either destroyed or exported after a very short life (I think 5 years) so hundreds got exported to the UK after their German life. Some kept their original cases and were re-branded to take UK coins but a large number had their mech's removed and put into dozens of different (what were considered at the time) modern cases.
As the mechs were only expected to last a few years they were made of very cheap metal (often called "pot" metal in the UK) which breaks very easily, but here we are 60+ years later and hundreds are still going strong. The weakest part is perhaps the coin slides which are well known for breaking with age related metal fatigue .
I've seen the "Roma" before and believe it or not it's one of the better looking cases. :D

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Re: What kind of Machine is this ?

Postby pienziato » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:45 pm

wauw, thank you so much for the information Daveslot and coppinpr.
Do you guys have any idea what a machine like this would be worth?
( not trying to sell it, but so I know if I overpaid it )

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Re: What kind of Machine is this ?

Postby pennymachines » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:54 pm

coppinpr wrote:Slot machines were only allowed to be built in Germany in the early 50s if they were either destroyed or exported after a very short life (I think 5 years)...
It was only three years.

Malcymal says he paid £110 for one in 2009.

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Re: What kind of Machine is this ?

Postby jonesthegarage » Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:15 am

I paid £100 for one in 2011 or thereabouts and just sold it as part of a job lot for around £180, so "arrivederci Roma" !!YABBADABBA!!

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Re: Revamped Beromat-type Bandits

Postby jonesthegarage » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:44 pm

been a while since we had such a strong contender for the title "Ugliest Beromat Derivative" but here it is.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BEROMAT-ORION ... SwAYtWLQIH

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Re: Revamped Beromat-type Bandits

Postby badpenny » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:47 pm

It's been a while but another one has surfaced on eBay that I haven't seen before.

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eBay item No. 262314794718
It's hard to tell from the grainy photo but it looks quite classy. I shouldn't be surprised if the case cost more than the mechansim.
It even has the original handle.

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Re: Revamped Beromat-type Bandits

Postby treefrog » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:21 pm

Same as the Viscount. See the two or three pages earlier on this thread. There was at least one other of this type, again different name. Normally they are on 1np, but have seen them on old penny.

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Re: Revamped Beromat-type Bandits

Postby badpenny » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:04 pm

Similar I agree and could have been from the same stable but not the same .........

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A bit more Blingy .... I like my bandits blingy.


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