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Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:05 am
by cait001
treefrog wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:39 pm Well I sold one on eBay just over a week ago was cheap as well, not sure I would have risked shipping to Canada though..... maybe someone will......good luck
Oh hey I just pulled up your sales. Damn, yeah, good price. I would have easily gone higher.
Unsure if someone would undertake it, but I would totally pay for the shipping and the effort that does into the "handling" of shipping something like that over sees. What would be a decent rate for S&H you estimate? £100?

Let me know if you come across another and want to give it a go, I will do a fair price. :)

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:51 am
by moonriver
cait001 wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:03 am
moonriver wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:38 pm why not just visit here, have a holiday, and take one back with you, they're not particularly bulky or heavy
ha, I wish! :)
One day, we shall see. thanks for the invite.
No worries, the site's Administrative Assistant Human Resources and Tourism officer will meet you at the airport. He will be the one waving wildly and holding up a small card with the letters BP on it.

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:50 pm
by badpenny
Now I am seriously worried.....
When I left school I went to work in a travel agency for 3 years.
At the peak of my working life I was a Human Resources Director for one of the largest employers in the UK.
If you are aware of my actions on the 24th June 1999 please keep quiet. !OMFG!

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:37 pm
by moonriver
too late now, your file has been released under the thirty year rule!

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:13 pm
by badpenny
Before you start altering permanently.
Remember that when coins are employed as part of the game they carry with them all the grease, dirt and fluff they gather from every pocket and purse they've been in. That gets transferred to the next place they end up in.

If this was my machine, I'd remove the playfield from the case, get all of the coins off the playfield and feel the smoothness or lack of in the trips when they move. I bet when you look at the playfield without coins you'll still see all of the outlines of them. That's the dirt, and it's slowing and grabbing the coins.
remove it all, and when dry polish it with a furniture spray. Clean the inside of the glass as well.

We'll all now await your next post, which you should title, "How do I get a Bell Cascade back together without the trips all falling off?" Someone then will reply and tell you about laying two chairs face to face with you lying on the floor between them and reaching up.

BP :cool:
ps when you clean the glass on the inside, remember it's the side with the transfer on, we can get replacement trips, but I've never seen replacement transfers.

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:59 pm
by malcymal
A wise man posted on here you need to lay two chairs face to face with you lying on the floor between them and reaching up. Can't for the life of me think who it was? :lol: It's quite amazing how the subject of the Bell Fruit Cascade has come up. I always fancied one of these but I have a bad back and don't think I'd be able to get up off the floor and somebody would find me five years later as a skeleton sandwiched between two chairs with a Bell Fruit Cascade impaled upon my skull; probably.

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:51 pm
by cait001
OK, maybe time for a new plan. Can someone give me the exact dimensions of a Cascade, and weight?

I am heading to London next spring and wonder if I can maybe bring one home with me on the plane...

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:17 pm
by treefrog
Not got one in front me now, but must be light, 10 to 15 kg I reckon and smaller than most Allwins...... Big issue will be the glass and how to get through without breaking. I wouldn’t trust luggage people. Although you could take out and carefully apply to back of cabinet with layers of padding flat and strapped...... Not sure you would get through as hand luggage, but again glass would need to be well protected...

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:30 pm
by badpenny
You'd need to protect the glass not only from the outside.
You'd need to fill the void inside as well, probably pack the gap between the playfield and glass with compressed foam rubber.

BP :cool:

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:31 am
by moonriver
At check in I'd either get them to put it into the fragile hold, or persuade them to put a 'passed for cabin luggage' label on it and carry it onboard and ask the purser to put it into the crew wardrobe.
I do this frequently when travelling back from the US without any issues at all.

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:02 am
by cait001
Yeah, I am hoping to bring it on the plane with me in my hands, so that's why I'm looking for the exact dimensions to see if that's a possibility.
One of these darn things has got to make it's way to North America somehow! I've given up hope on a pajatso proper, but Cascade is an exact copy of a 1930s Finnish pajatso design, so that should be good enough for my purposes. ;)

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:16 pm
by moonriver
Make a bubble wrap jacket for it, easy to take off if customs want to look inside, (and put back on again) then a nylon rope tied criss cross around it like a parcel and carry it by the rope much like a suitcase and make it look light and easy to carry.
Don't forget to get them to put a 'accepted for cabin luggage' label on it at check in, It will fit through the X-ray scanner at security no problem.
If they still ask you to check it in once you're at the gate, show them the 'accepted for cabin label' and say the purser will put it in the crew wardrobe. Adopt a positive demeanour like you carry these on board all the time.
Home and dry, try not to drop it when you get off at the other end.

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:56 am
by pennymachines
Professional pajatso cheats...




Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:02 pm
by moonriver
I guess the view you take on this depends on which side of the fence you were. In the UK it was a constant battle with cheats, from electro mechanical machines and the wrapping rolls of old 10p coins in sellotape, slicing them into single coins again with the extra band around them and rolling straight through the 50p slots, to early electronic fishing with strimmer wire with £1 attached through Mars mechs crediting multiple games. We were always playing catch up with the latest scam.

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:09 pm
by livinginthepast
cait001 wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:51 pm Can someone give me the exact dimensions of a Cascade, and weight?

Measurements: 30 1/2 x 19 1/2 x 5 1/2 inches.

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:21 am
by cait001
livinginthepast wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:09 pm Measurements: 30 1/2 x 19 1/2 x 5 1/2 inches.

Thank you!

pennymachines wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:56 am Professional pajatso cheats...

LMAO when they just picked the damn thing up and turned it upside down :lol:

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:15 pm
by treefrog
Just a couple of thoughts....

Do you have a tension bar on the rear of the play field? You should have, as it holds it to the glass. These are tensioned with two thumb screws and I recall having a similar issue where these were over-tightened not giving free movement across all parts of playfield. Also, they should probably not be over-tightened risking cracking glass. Pressure is there to just hold coins close enough without dropping past guides. Maybe try releasing these bit by bit to see if it helps.

Secondly, later steel coins are not the same thickness as copper ones. Ever noticed if you get a difference from the variation?

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:45 am
by badpenny
The change in 1np coins has perplexed anyone with a post decimal or decimal converted machine.
The steel content falls foul of coin ejectors with magnets, and the increased thickness stops any comparator devices.

BP :cool:

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:38 pm
by livinginthepast
Cascade weight 38lb

Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:25 pm
by cait001
what year was Cascade made?