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Re: Sega "Bonanza Star" double jackpot

Postby roller » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:11 am

widget2k4 wrote:Another point, have you actually been and seen the machine? Normally Henry doesn't have them ready to go and does them after he gets the order I'm sure.
It's ready to go, just needs 12volt led system fitted for reels and top box and would like it converted to 20p play.
It's had bottom of machine and arm rechromed.

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Re: Sega "Bonanza Star" double jackpot

Postby widget2k4 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:59 am

In my opinion a Mills high top is a much nicer machine, the sega ones are OK as a first machine but would expect to pay about 400 for a mint one, mint restored high tops go for about 550 to 650 approx, sega parts are all copies of Mills and anyone on here would probably say they would rather have an original Mills?

Still at the end of the day if you like it and can afford it go for it, at least it's piece of mind it will be working when you get it, but be warned it can and will stop working at some point as they were never 100 percent reliable and with the age things go wrong, you will soon start to learn about them when your constantly unjamming them etc but that's all part of the fun and learning.

Good luck with your decision

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Re: Sega "Bonanza Star" double jackpot

Postby aristomatic » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:18 am

Welcome!

Firstly don't be discouraged as you are not the first or the last novice on any Forum after half a dozen posts to say I'm not sure what to do now...............?
It's great to get advice but sometimes it can almost make it harder to move forward. As you don't drive that could reduce your options. If your location is close to a member here, they may be willing to show you their collection and that may help you choose a certain model style over another and it may be an opportunity for you to see the complexity of the mechanics first hand.

It's always easier to understand the advice when someone can demonstrate in front of you, in person. Unfortunately, there will probably be as much advice regarding choice of coin as there is regarding choice of machine make or model and price..................

Take your time.
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Re: Sega "Bonanza Star" double jackpot

Postby roller » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:55 am

There is a Mills Hi Top in black through Henry that is £799.

Are slots a high price through Henry because of the full restoration etc?
I've just bought a book from Amazon regarding prices inside machines etc. I think I best have a read first.

Can slots play up more/jam if they are converted to play 10p 20p so on? I would prefer for it to pay current really.

Thank you for all your advice, I really appreciate it.

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Re: Sega "Bonanza Star" double jackpot

Postby roller » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:57 am

aristomatic wrote:If your location is close to a member here, they may be willing to show you their collection and that may help you choose a certain model style over another and it may be an opportunity for you to see the complexity of the mechanics first hand.
Good point...
Is there any one in the Birmingham area with a collection willing to show me and discuss? I would really appreciate it.

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Re: Sega "Bonanza Star" double jackpot

Postby widget2k4 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:31 pm

Machines will be more prone to jams and incorrect payouts when they are converted to modern coins, best to leave them on the coin they were designed for.
His prices are higher because of his name and reputation, but I would still rather see it in person before parting with that amount of cash. I have seen some restorations that are terrible when you get a good look and some are fantastic.

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Re: Sega "Bonanza Star" double jackpot

Postby roller » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:18 pm

That's my only issue as I don't drive I've got to go on pics and the trusting of the seller.
Have most of the people on the forum bought by auction? The only place really for buying them I've come across is Henry Powells. I've looked over eBay but if I'm looking wrong I can't really find any that look any good.
I can't believe the amount there is in the US but can't believe the price too! Some are more expensive than in the UK.

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Re: Sega "Bonanza Star" double jackpot

Postby coppinpr » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:07 pm

Now you're getting the feel of what's involved I think you should take stock of where you are with this.

First it's clear you genuinely want to own a machine and not just a "talking point " in the corner.

Second, you are, as a beginner, scared the machine might not work/breakdown and it looks like a mad house inside. On this point don't worry, these machine were built like battleships (as you will notice when you try to lift one). Whatever machine you buy, with our help or a little experience you CAN fix it, ALWAYS!

Third, buying a machine is a very personal choice, and that's why us lot are pussy footing about and not telling you what to do, but as you may have noticed from the later posts the boys are getting a feel for what you are looking for and making more definite comments. So I'll join the throng. Please note these are just ideas and you (and others) may not agree.

If I was spending that much money, and it was my first machine I wouldn't buy that machine. The Segas are nice (I have one in my collection and sold one at our Coventry auction in November), but they are late machines and lack both history and the classic lines of a truly collectable machine. Look for a classic machine that's working when you buy it. Ask a local forum member to go look at it with you (he will). Coming from HP is a plus at a price and not always a success. I know of two people who bought from him and the machines did not work 100% from day one. HP will help and is by no means a con man but these machines are old at best. Unless the stand is something special, look for one elsewhere and save the money.

Just to show how we might think differently from a newbe, when you said the machine was just waiting for LED lighting, the general scream from the forum members was heard from here. Treefrog went and sat with a couple of dozen of his machines till he calmed down, BP had a little lie down and Mr P. himself had to call nursey.

Here are a couple of photos of machines I'd prefer (can you guess I like the '30s-'40s designs?) with rough prices you MIGHT expect to pay for a good one. I you look at these and they don't grab you over the Sega... then buy the Sega. You know you want one, and we will look after it for you one way or another for sure.

Someone said earlier that if you buy the Sega expect to lose money if you sell it... very true. The machines below however would not lose their value and might be expected to increase.
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Mills Hi-top £600-£800
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Mills Extraordinary £750-£1000
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Jennings Governor £850-£1000
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Buckley "Criss Cross" £450-£600


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