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Re: Play Nine Holes golf penny game

Postby mei-mei » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:30 pm

Thank you pennymachines, that would be perfect. !!THUMBSX2!! I would rather follow a template than struggle with guessing it !PUZZLED! It will take me a week or two to sort out the casing anyway. Mei-mei

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Re: Play Nine Holes golf penny game

Postby mei-mei » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:06 pm

Hi, well finally got round to taking the back off of this machine and woah what a mess inside. Happily the glass is in great condition considering (pic 1), but needs a careful cleaning. The bits I thought were missing are actually there, they were hidden behind about a million broken pieces of yellowed Perspex (pic 2). As expected all the screws are well and truly welded in place so having to improvise getting to the bits I need to restore. Still would be helpful to have that pic of the inside when you have a mo as I think some of the metal track is missing. Next job, down to Wickes for fine sanding paper! !!ESCAPE!!
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Re: Play Nine Holes golf penny game

Postby coppinpr » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:47 pm

I can't be certain because of the foliage but I can't see any track missing. I can see one slightly out of line but the way the track is made and the condition of the glass I think you won't have too bad a job bringing this one round.

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Re: Play Nine Holes golf penny game

Postby mei-mei » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:49 pm

Thanks coppiner, could you let me know which one is missing? Mei-mei

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Re: Play Nine Holes golf penny game

Postby coppinpr » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:51 pm

Like I said, I can't see any missing. The first one on the left in the photo might be a little out of place, unless it's been mounted like that at the game start point.

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Re: Play Nine Holes golf penny game

Postby mei-mei » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:15 am

Thanks again coppinpr, will give it a wiggle and see if it has moved. Mei-mei

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Re: Play Nine Holes golf penny game

Postby pennymachines » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:26 pm

The track on your playfield looks to be in better nick than the one I was going to photograph.

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Re: Play Nine Holes golf penny game

Postby mei-mei » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:02 am

Hi pennymachines. Looks in this case are absolutely deceiving! As you can see from the pic I have cleared all the debris away and given it a first sanding. The track is 'broken' in many places and when I gave it the wiggle test, several of the pieces were found to be held in position by one secured point so rotate when touched. If I understand it correctly, the track is held in place by small nuts and bolts through the metal back plate. I am giving some serious thought about painting the back board with the track in place, then removing the track and using the shadow of it to replace the track with a more robust one. Only issue there is that the bolts like everything else is rusted to hell and getting them out will be a nightmare. Also getting replacement bolts could prove tricky? What you think? Mei-mei
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Re: Play Nine Holes golf penny game

Postby coppinpr » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:31 pm

The only question I have is are the tracks rotten? because if they are not then I think it's a big mistake to replace them. Try to keep the machine as original as possible unless you have to replace a part, that's why I like to work on machines in a very bad state, then I don't feel bad about re painting or replacing.

If you intend to paint the back board with the tracks in place and they are not rotten then repair them. If there is an actual broken one then remake that one. If any are loose and only held by one bolt drill a new hole in a new place on the track piece,all the way through the back board, for the second bolt and simply use a new similar bolt.
If you do need to remove a track and the nut and bolt are totally rusted together cut the nut off with something like a Dremel metal cutting disc.

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Re: Play Nine Holes golf penny game

Postby pennymachines » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:58 pm

Again, the tracks on mine are worse than yours. The question is what causes them to fracture like this. I haven't investigated yet, but either the plastic has chemically deteriorated (seems likely) or it has cracked because of thermal expansion of the metal backing to which it's attached - or a bit of both.

Because the track must, above all, be smooth for the game to play well, I would (and will) remake it, using the original as a template. Modern plastics are more chemically stable and by making the fixing holes slightly larger than the bolts that go through them, problems with differential expansion could be avoided.

One option for accurately recording the position of the original tracks prior to replacement might be to score into the metal backing with a sharp implement following the existing track contours.


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