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Well that print place fell through.
They priced it at $139 + taxes !!!
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I'm not completely surprised at the price quoted. In the UK the price varies a lot but is never cheap. Of course we in the UK know nothing about general prices in Canada but I'd guess that quote was too high but a price around $100 might be expected.

Vistaprint online shows that a print for a window decal ( inside installed ) would be $25 + tax but they only list white or transparent as backgrounds on order sheet.
Their online ordering also sets the image to fit the page and allows you to size it from there but without anything to indicate outcome size.
In this case size does matter!
I will be trying to contact them today.

you could always add your own mirror finish to the back of the vista print clear version

having had a look at their web site you would need to increase the size of your design by adding a border round your needed size to make the size up to 60cm by 60cm, then remove the border when it arrives leaving you with the correct size

Going with the transparent vinyl at a cost of $31.05 total.
Still will need to add mirroring.
Here is the image I used as a JPEG.
It has the proper transparency, the canvas has been enlarged for print on a 18" x 24" sheet and the image is placed to the side a bit on the canvas so the image isn't cut off by the printer.

Print company just put it in the mail.
Won't get it till the end of next week.
Talk about slow!!
Here is the image.

Not a good picture due to lighting in the man cave.
The print job could have been better since I had it done at Vistaprint.
Still need to do the mirror background.
That will have to wait for warmer weather because I'm going to use the spray on.

Just an update on how this has held up.
It is out in an unheated man cave so it is subject to hot, cold, damp or dry conditions.
Been out there a couple years now and has held up quite well.
I thought it might pull loose a bit but it still looks new.
I'm quite happy with how it turned out.
The people I've had over have never seen one of these but none suspected this was not original.

Thanks for the update. Did you go with the mirror spray or a mirror backing?

Used the spray.

Here's a link to another post with other instruction cards.
Duo Mat instructions in German & English

Off topic for the graphics but are the keys for these the same for all and where would I get a couple?
I had a couple unsupervised kids with their hands in the machine at our last party.
Weather was good so we were outside and these little buggers were in the cave and throwing every coin they had in it till they jammed them up.
Got them cleared and going again but would like to lock them.

liquorbox wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:50 pm ... are the keys for these the same for all and where would I get a couple?

Like other Wulff machines, the Rotomat and Duomat use Zeiss Icon locks. See Locks for a Beromat /Gunther Wulff wall machine

If you search Zeiss locks (assuming you have originals on there) you will see recommend companies doing keys for them. Not cheap and maybe Tallstory might chip in as I know he has had a few done. I tend to put in a cam lock of right length using the existing bezel and lock guide already there, then file a notch in cam/tab at right point. I will always leave original locks in cash tin in case needed again.....

Also see Locks & Locksmiths on the Services page (e.g. Davenport Burgess, Morlands Locks & Keys).

Thank you for the replies.


And by the way. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Yes I have had 2 sets of Zeiss locks re-keyed for my Beromats. I went to Morlands Locks but initially they said they didn't have the blanks and couldn't do them. After a bit of a search I found the blanks at Davenport Burgess. They are usually trade only but I phoned them and they were very helpful. They supplied me with a few blanks (quite cheap) and I sent the blanks to Morlands to cut the keys. I believe Morlands have a database of the Zeiss K2 locks which tells them how to cut the blanks using the serial number stamped on the lock.

As TF says it ain't cheap but it is really nice to have the original locks on the machines. Otherwise try replacement locks again as TF suggests. Another trick would be to drill out the cylinder pins to de-activate the locks. They still rotate but the will operate with any key (such as an uncut blank from Davenport Burgess) or even a screwdriver! You pays your money ...

tallstory wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:16 pm ...it ain't cheap but it is really nice to have the original locks on the machines.

Roughly how much is it per lock, if you don't mind?

The keys were £54 for the pair - even though I supplied the blanks. I got four blanks from Davenport Burgess for under £10. Add postage and you can see that it mounts up very quickly!

Thanks