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Re: My Rotomat Juwel and Duomat penny arcades

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:50 pm
by liquorbox
Here's a link to another post with other instruction cards.
Duo Mat instructions in German & English

Re: My Rotomat Juwel and Duomat penny arcades

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:50 pm
by liquorbox
Off topic for the graphics but are the keys for these the same for all and where would I get a couple?
I had a couple unsupervised kids with their hands in the machine at our last party.
Weather was good so we were outside and these little buggers were in the cave and throwing every coin they had in it till they jammed them up.
Got them cleared and going again but would like to lock them.

Re: My Rotomat Juwel and Duomat penny arcades

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:58 am
by pennymachines
liquorbox wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:50 pm ... are the keys for these the same for all and where would I get a couple?
Like other Wulff machines, the Rotomat and Duomat use Zeiss Icon locks. See Locks for a Beromat /Gunther Wulff wall machine

Re: My Rotomat Juwel and Duomat penny arcades

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:01 am
by treefrog
If you search Zeiss locks (assuming you have originals on there) you will see recommend companies doing keys for them. Not cheap and maybe Tallstory might chip in as I know he has had a few done. I tend to put in a cam lock of right length using the existing bezel and lock guide already there, then file a notch in cam/tab at right point. I will always leave original locks in cash tin in case needed again.....

Re: My Rotomat Juwel and Duomat penny arcades

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:13 am
by pennymachines
Also see Locks & Locksmiths on the Services page (e.g. Davenport Burgess, Morlands Locks & Keys).

Re: My Rotomat Juwel and Duomat penny arcades

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:33 pm
by liquorbox
Thank you for the replies. !!CHEERS!!


And by the way. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
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Re: My Rotomat Juwel and Duomat penny arcades

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:16 pm
by tallstory
Yes I have had 2 sets of Zeiss locks re-keyed for my Beromats. I went to Morlands Locks but initially they said they didn't have the blanks and couldn't do them. After a bit of a search I found the blanks at Davenport Burgess. They are usually trade only but I phoned them and they were very helpful. They supplied me with a few blanks (quite cheap) and I sent the blanks to Morlands to cut the keys. I believe Morlands have a database of the Zeiss K2 locks which tells them how to cut the blanks using the serial number stamped on the lock.

As TF says it ain't cheap but it is really nice to have the original locks on the machines. Otherwise try replacement locks again as TF suggests. Another trick would be to drill out the cylinder pins to de-activate the locks. They still rotate but the will operate with any key (such as an uncut blank from Davenport Burgess) or even a screwdriver! You pays your money ...

Re: My Rotomat Juwel and Duomat penny arcades

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:30 pm
by pennymachines
tallstory wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:16 pm ...it ain't cheap but it is really nice to have the original locks on the machines.
Roughly how much is it per lock, if you don't mind?

Re: My Rotomat Juwel and Duomat penny arcades

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:36 pm
by tallstory
The keys were £54 for the pair - even though I supplied the blanks. I got four blanks from Davenport Burgess for under £10. Add postage and you can see that it mounts up very quickly!

Re: My Rotomat Juwel and Duomat penny arcades

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:42 pm
by pennymachines
Thanks !THUMBS!