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Re: Coin operated stereo viewers

Postby pennymachines » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:12 pm

atticbrowser wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:55 am
I'm sure the early wooden cased machines are all well known by members and I see that the Oliver Whales stereo viewer has been discussed several times on here.
For those unfamiliar with those early coin-op stereoscopes - a brief survey:

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Kalloskop
The German-made Kalloskop seems to be one of the earliest and most successful machines. It is dated circa 1895 and credited to Polyphon Musikwerke of Leipzig by Nic Costa (Automatic Pleasures).
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Kalloskop
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Kalloskop interior
It contained between 18 and 24 stereo tissue cards often presented in 2 series of 9 or 3 series of 8, thereby squeezing a few more coins from the punters. The chain of cards were advanced by pressing the knob at the front and a glass panel on top of the case provided illumination. There was also provision to hook an oil lamp on the rear for further illumination.

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Stereskop
Early coin-operated stereoscope from around 1900 pictured on page 54 of Wenn der Groschen fällt...

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Prinzess Panorama
The impressive cast iron multi-station stereoscope, Princzess Panorama was produced in 1895/6 by the pioneering maker of chocolate vending machines, Deutschen Automatengesellschaft Stollwerck & Co. (DAG).

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Autocosmoscope
The Autocosmoscope is credited to L.V. Automatic Company Ltd. and dated 1898 by Nic Costa. However, other sources attribute it to Haydon & Urry Ltd. Gameswat was restoring the below example in 2009 (see Autocosmoscope - great name). He has it as 'Haydon & Urry, 1896'. Which is correct?
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Autocosmoscope
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Autocosmoscope interior
Haydon & Urry produced a film projector called the Eragraph in 1897 and (according to Costa) the Erascope around 1905.
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Erascope
Another early British machine is the metal-clad Automatic Stereoscope (see below and in the Museum). Perhaps Sweetmeats has more information about this one. Currently it contains some wonderful stereoscopic dinosaur images.
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Automatic Stereoscope
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Kaiserpanorama

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Re: Coin operated stereo viewers

Postby atticbrowser » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:30 pm

Gameswat kindly posted some more pictures of the coin op viewer using an Australian Viewmaster clone as the viewer. One minor feature I noticed (just putting on my anorak) is that the reel in the picture (copied below) is what is known as a Viewmaster Personal Reel. You can tell this from the way the pockets for the film chips have numbers next to them. So the reel was made by an amateur photographer using a Viewmaster Personal camera. These are great fun to use and allow you to make your own Viewmaster reels of friends, family and holidays (or in this case scantily clad ladies). It is a fiddly business, cutting out and mounting the tiny pairs of film chips in special blank reels. There are probably fewer than a hundred of us in the world still with the equipment and the patience to make these unique reels.
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Re: Coin operated stereo viewers

Postby gameswat » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:07 pm

Attic, I had a couple of those low production reels by Meopta, purchased from Czechoslovakia. I think they were early 1960's judging from the sets and hairdo's.

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Re: Coin operated stereo viewers

Postby gameswat » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:36 pm

pennymachines wrote: The Autocosmoscope is credited to L.V. Automatic Company Ltd. and dated 1898 by Nic Costa. However, other sources attribute it to Haydon & Urry Ltd. Gameswat was restoring the below example in 2009 (see Autocosmoscope - great name). He has it as 'Haydon & Urry, 1896'. Which is correct?
PM, I never found a Patent by H&U for the machine, I took that from the Braithwaite book. It states the following three dates relating to the Autocosmoscope:

1) Haydon & Urry, 1896 - information from the book "The rise of the cinema in Great Britain" by John Barnes.
2) LV Automatic Co Ltd. 1898 - information from the book "Automatic Pleasures" by Nic Costa. (Braithwaite does write this "Probably means the Haydon & Urry machine of the same name" .)
3) William Haydon & Co, 1902 - information from 1934 World's Fair magazine.

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Re: Coin operated stereo viewers

Postby atticbrowser » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:01 pm

Referring to the Fraser & Hosking stereoviewer, Gameswat commented on the reel inside and explained ‘I had a couple of those low production reels by Meopta, purchased from Czechoslovakia. I think they were early 1960's judging from the sets and hairdos.’
He is quite right about the date of these and there are a surprising number of different reels to be found. Many sadly have turned to magenta with age. As to the reel in the photo though, that is, in my humble opinion a Viewmaster Personal reel. It may well have been used to re-mount a set of Meopta ‘Nude Girls’ film chips as the Meopta reels often fell apart! The picture below shows, on the top row, the verso of two versions of the Meopta Nude Girls’ reels. On the left is a Meopta Nude Girls reel mounted in Meopta’s own ‘Personal Reel.’ You can see where the numbers for the cells are printed – in the inner circle, and the colour of the numbers (black). Top right is a Meopta Nude Girls reel mounted in a factory sealed mount, which is plain on the back. Bottom row shows two Viewmaster Personal reels, where the cell numbers are printed in green and on the outer circumference of the reel. I think this is what is in the Fraser and Hosking viewer illustrated. Now I am definitely taking my anorak off.
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Re: Coin operated stereo viewers

Postby 13rebel » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:39 pm

Great images and information. Attic, it's okay to don your anorak, many people on here follow that fashion. !!ESCAPE!!

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Re: Coin operated stereo viewers

Postby gameswat » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:38 pm

Attic, sounds like a good guess. It's been a long time since I looked at those reels so I can't remember much, just that I purchased them from someone in Czechoslovakia like that and they both had hand typed up labels which made me believe they were low production, both had different sets of images. I had a quick look on hard drives and old emails as thought I took photos but can't find anything. Did find more info on the Fraser & Hosking machines I sent to someone years ago though. The ex Bob machine was serial #13, then later on I purchased another example for a friend serial #34 - this has the cast coin entry. The state museum a third. And a fourth is owned by the son of one of the two makers.

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Re: Coin operated stereo viewers

Postby bob » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:18 am

The inclusion of a Kaiserpanorama by Pennymachines brought back a whole heap of memories for me. A visit to the Kaiserpanorama in the mid thirties is one of the most vivid memories of my childhood in Vienna before my family left Austria in September 1938 and came to Australia in March 1939. As illustrated, the Kaiserpanorama consisted of a series of eyepieces in a circular wooden structure before which one sat and looked at stereoscopic photographs of views from all over world. The Vienna Kaiserpanorama was situated in a building on the “Ring”, the main circular street which had replaced the original walls of the inner old city of Vienna. These photos were on a carrier that rotated and brought up a new picture to look at every few seconds. The Kaiserpanorama was still there when I visited Vienna after the war in 1951 but was long gone on my next visit in 1989.

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One of these Kaierpanorama World Panoramas is located at present in the Pioneer Settlement Museum situated in Australia in Swan Hill a country town about 340 kilometres north of Melbourne. The Museum bought this traveling showman’s outfit when it first opened and it has been on display in a small old building ever since. We last visited it in 2001 when this photo was taken. My first unexpected sight of this in an otherwise empty building was in 1982, a most haunting moment for me bringing back memories. The Kaiserpanorama operates unattended by an operator all day, with an electric motor rotating an umbrella like mechanism carrying the stereoscopic photographic glass slides. The museum was lucky to buy the whole outfit with a huge collection of slides from a traveling showman who still had it at the time of the museum’s opening. The Kaiserpanorama can be readily dismantled into the separate numbered wooden panels and the collapsible slide carrier system, but is of course now on permanent display. The display is accompanied by the playing of a tape track of an old acoustic recording of an opera singer (probably Dame Nellie Melba) in full flight. An incredibly moving experience for me.

Pennymachines illustration of a Kalloscop also brought back memories of an auction of photographic equipment etc., here in Melbourne many years ago which included a Kalloscop. A collector friend and I went to the auction and since the Kalloscop was right at the end of a long auction of cameras and lenses etc., we viewed the items and retired to a nearby pub for a couple of drinks. On our return we found that the auctioneer had galloped through the items and it was all over, so that’s why there was no Kalloscop among my collection of coin op stereo viewer machines shown here recently. This forum certainly does bring back some wonderful memories for me.

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Re: Coin operated stereo viewers

Postby gameswat » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:17 pm

Probably the most over-engineered of the earlier style stereo card viewers - Peerless Pictures - What a classic in every sense!
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Re: Coin operated stereo viewers

Postby 13rebel » Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:11 pm

Lovely story Bob, thanks for sharing your memories. Surprised to read partly from the 1930s!


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