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Re: OK, let's talk RARE one arm bandits....

Postby badpenny » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:33 am

clubconsoles wrote:
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This is probably rarest in my collection.
I know this is nearly 2 years old, but I'm a bit slow these days ..... why would a machine that is a vendor front (twin columns to boot) also have a side vendor? How many tubes of mints does the operator want you to have?

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Re: OK, let's talk RARE one arm bandits....

Postby gameswat » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:37 am

BP, those are dummy packs in the front, there's no way to vend them.

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Re: OK, let's talk RARE one arm bandits....

Postby watlingman » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:06 pm

Three of mine. Let you decide if you think they qualify for rare, I will just say find me another!
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Re: OK, let's talk RARE one arm bandits....

Postby gameswat » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:49 pm

quadibloc wrote:
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So I'd be inclined to just put the strawberries down to it being a European machine rather than surmising a connection with Caille.
Quad, except it's a 5 cent machine so made for US operation. Don't remember any Euro slots marketed in the US and did the Europeans even have any need for mint vendors? The name is cast into it, by Silver King Novelty who were quite large selling private labelled Mills and revamping Mills and who knows what else.

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Re: OK, let's talk RARE one arm bandits....

Postby clubconsoles » Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:01 pm

watlingman wrote:
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Three of mine. Let you decide if you think they qualify for rare, I will just say find me another!
I would say I've never seen a FOK front casting like that, so let's say it is a rare revamp of a common machine, as is my Silver King which is a revamp of a common Jennings "Mints of Quality" gooseneck from the mid '20s!

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Re: OK, let's talk RARE one arm bandits....

Postby brigham » Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:29 pm

Is a Watling Treasury rare, or it there something unusual about that particular one?

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Re: OK, let's talk RARE one arm bandits....

Postby clubconsoles » Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:55 pm

Not really, less were made than the Rol a Tops but Treasury still had a Seven year production run.
The problem with Treasury is the castings have been reproduced and bolted onto blue seals which are much more plentiful.
So the Treasury population has doubled and half of them are repro, which has hurt the value of the real deal!

Thankfully, most of the repros are sand cast and some of the fine details in the coins are lost, so if you compare it to a real one, it's easy to see.
If you don't have one to compare to, it can be hard to discern.
Most made from Blue Seals tend to be without jackpots, have no second coin return chute and a blue seal handle instead of a wider Rol a Top handle.
I know Watlingman's machine and I can safely say it is the real deal.

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Re: OK, let's talk RARE one arm bandits....

Postby watlingman » Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:11 pm

It's also a mint vendor Treasury that makes it a little harder to find, but not impossible I agree!

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Re: OK, let's talk RARE one arm bandits....

Postby coppinpr » Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:34 pm

I think the early basic Treasury had the front shown below. I guess the vendor front on the one above was standard for vendors and was the same lower casting used on some Rol-a-Tops, although the first Rol-a-Tors had the mints visible on the vendor, at least Thomas White Burns Watling stakes his reputation on it!!
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Re: OK, let's talk RARE one arm bandits....

Postby brigham » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:34 am

Surely the mint vendor is blanked-off? You wouldn't use it as a vendor like that, it defeats the object.


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