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Re: Help

Postby pennymachines » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:44 pm

Hi Scott and welcome!

I've merged your query with the thread about your dad's machine.

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Re: Help

Postby scott christie » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:49 pm

Thank you very much, I’ll point him in the right direction. Brilliant.

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Caille Roulette??

Postby deano67 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:06 pm

Topic moved & merged - Site Admin

Hi All,
Am interested in the Caille Roulette Allwin type machine on ebay at the moment. Can't find anything else like it or any info on it anywhere.
Anyone got any advice?
Many thanks.

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Re: Caille Roulette??

Postby treefrog » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:23 pm

Mmmm, always helps to have a picture or a link, but guess you mean the below said machine that has been on or off eBay with loads of other machines dozens of time. Yet another example of an overpriced machine over sold.....probably twice the value and should be more like £500 I am afraid.... check Elephant House for historic prices, range from £260 to £700 in various states....

See below thread on the machines by Clement and Whales... I have a few, In fact bought one off another collector on here a few years back.

This one is a 25 stop one:

Caille / Clement & Whales Countertop disc machines
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Re: Caille Roulette??

Postby deano67 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:24 pm

Yes that's the one!
Thanks for the valuation etc but wondered if anyone could date it and how rare etc. Also confused how you value it at about 500 when you then said Elephant sold one at 700. Is value down to working order/condition/location etc?
I guess a collector would pay far more than a dealer?

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Re: Caille Roulette??

Postby treefrog » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:38 pm

No idea what you are talking about dealers, of course they sell high and buy low, but not sure the seller is a dealer, there are few of those in this game.......

If you read the thread I sent above you will find loads of questions answered, like date of machines, history etc, suspect the mods will link this to it anyway.

Value is my opinion as you may always get someone willing to pay more and less and of course condition will affect things, but you choose. You will note there is a wide range of pricing at elephant house and 700 was way above others. The greyhound version tends to be more collectable as more desirable and rarer. If it was good value it would have sold a long time ago....

Good luck ;-)

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Re: Caille Roulette??

Postby badpenny » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:46 pm

deano67 wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:24 pm
Yes that's the one!
Thanks for the valuation etc but wondered if anyone could date it and how rare etc. Also confused how you value it at about 500 when you then said Elephant sold one at 700. Is value down to working order/condition/location etc?
I guess a collector would pay far more than a dealer?
Prices are very much down to working order/condition/what part of the year it is/originality/ how long it's been offered on the market at a ridiculous price and the accuracy of previous sales reports being true.

BP :cool:

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Re: Caille / Clement & Whales Countertop disc machines

Postby treefrog » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:20 pm

I noticed Drew Pritchard had a machine on his latest restoration program this week. Interestingly it was one that sold at the Elephant 3 years ago for £370. If you haven’t seen won’t give any spoilers, but boy they missed all the hard graft from the film. One minute a pole of rust to shiny parts. Also note the use of grease on slides !OMFG!

I think they may be a bit optimistic at the expected £1500, but hey, he has some crazy customers.

Watch online or being repeated tonight on Quest TV at 8pm

https://www.questod.co.uk/show/salvage- ... HD_208403B
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Re: Caille / Clement & Whales Countertop disc machines

Postby pennymachines » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:43 pm

I think he does an honourable job here - just enough to bring it back into attractive working order while conserving its history.
The white grease on the slides isn't a biggie. OK - it'll attract muck and cause them to bind at some stage perhaps, but quite easy to put right.

'Salvage Restoration' looks much more interesting than 'Salvage Hunting'. !THUMBS!


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Re: Caille / Clement & Whales Countertop disc machines

Postby treefrog » Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:53 am

Certainly I was not criticising the outcome other than the use of grease, but this is lack of knowledge of the restorer I guess. My main disappointment was that the program glossed over the restoration and seem to focus on leaving the mechanism in a tank of diesel for a week. Of course it would have been nice to have actually seen what was done during the restoration even at a high level. Problem is they compact up to 4 restorations in one hour, with adverts and multiple repeating themselves over and over again and little detail is covered. I enjoy the series in general, but too much guff..some of the guys are very skilled.


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