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Re: Early Aristocrat

Postby andydotp » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:26 am

Is this machine in UK or Oz? Anyone know please?
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Re: Early Aristocrat

Postby treefrog » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:05 am

Andy,

The owner is In Aus.....trying to get him to join the forum..he has already stripped the machine and doing a rebuild, hope, he does join as would be good to see progress...was a family owned piece...great to see one.. !!THUMBSX2!!
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Re: Aristocrat Clubman & Clubmaster

Postby andydotp » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:20 am

Excellent TF, thanks.

Yes, lets hope the owner joins us - and lives in Melbourne!!!!

I'd be delighted to meet and view the machine. He/she can see my last seven as well. Reckon I'd swap my War Eagle, Mystery Golden, Governor or Ball Gum Vendor for their Aristo.

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Re: Aristocrat Clubman & Clubmaster

Postby treefrog » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:15 am

drphat wrote:
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Thank you very much Treefrog!

The handle mech design is different, see my pic, mine seems to have an extra few linkages plus the device hanging from the top of the cabinet.


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Appreciate the lock pics as that has cleared it up. This has barrel (cam) locks but do not lock onto anything. And I couldn't work out why there were two lugs either side!

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If I can't get them here, I would really appreciate the link to buy in the UK.

Thank you so much, and the last pic is my version of your Starlite!!
Andy who responded on the Aristocrat machine discovered and is also from Melbourne may have seen this handle arrangement before. I am fairly certain as mentioned, it looks there should be a pump attached to the part at the top and a rod from it would go through the square connector on the end of the handle assembly. Never seen this type on a Aristocrat before. In fact the guy who has the earlier made “Aristocrat” machine on this thread shared some pictures of his cabinet which is the same simple setup as most Clubmasters.

I do wonder why Aristocrat moved to a more complex cabinet setup compared to the earlier machines.
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Re: Aristocrat Clubman & Clubmaster

Postby drphat » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:10 am

Thanks TF,

I'm going to try a couple of different springs to see if they work first. I have to wait till the handle and other parts come back from the electroplater. I believe, through research here and other sites, it's an early model Clubmaster as it has the webbing - individual reel windows? Could be wrong, and the serial number is xxx.
My Starlite which is circa 1961 has a very simple spring return setup.
The pic below is how I bought the Clubmaster, but has already been stripped and painting started.
Maybe Andy can throw some more light on the handle return?

Nice Aristocrat find on facebook too, would love to see in person!
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Re: Aristocrat Clubman & Clubmaster

Postby treefrog » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:11 am

The picture I showed of my machine also has the reel posts, also the cabinet above is an earlier model machine, so not sure this is likely the reason. Your handle assembly is totally different with different numbers. If associated with a pump, it may be a later addition possibly... As I say, Aristocrat fitted these from the early '60s onwards, same as Nutt and Muddle.... Maybe someone will pipe up if they know... One option in the short term is to remove the additional linkage parts for now and see if you can attach a return spring. To be honest the spring's not critical as the mech will push the handle up anyway.

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Re: Aristocrat Clubman & Clubmaster

Postby andydotp » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:45 pm

Afraid I can't shed any light on the handle return pump/no pump question as haven't ever seen a Clubman, Clubmaster or Aristocrat in the flesh.

As for the Aristocrat owner up-thread, if you see this please PM me.
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Re: Aristocrat Clubman & Clubmaster

Postby drphat » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:19 am

Would anyone be interested in pics of this restore and if there is any interest, do I post them here or start another thread?

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Re: Aristocrat Clubman & Clubmaster

Postby treefrog » Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:02 am

Post away, if the mods want to move to a new chain I am sure they will do this. Searched through my Aristocrat documents and could not find the hub assembly of your machine. The later Nevada setup which started in 1963 had a damper linked in at the same place to the top of the cabinet, but the linkage is very different....
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Re: Aristocrat Clubman & Clubmaster

Postby pennymachines » Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:45 am

drphat wrote:
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...do I post them here or start another thread?
If it's the Starlite, best to start a new topic, so we keep this one on Clubman & Clubmaster. !THUMBS!


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