C.M. Schwarz Tura

[badpenny]

It's always likely mastereddy69 that if your machine hasn't got a vendor yet cast plates over the window, there's every likelihood it came from the factory that way.

The same could apply with the skill linkages. You may be trying to restore it to something it never was.
We sometimes get posts on here asking what the authentic colours were for bandits.
In the 60s I remember my Uncle taking delivery of new Sega bandits in primer. They were cheaper and many establishments wanted to paint them in their own club colours anyway.

BP

[mastereddy69]

It has no cast plates over the windows so I think it should have had one.

I came across this one on ebay https://www.ebay.de/itm/Heros-Mills-ein ... Swf5BbGS-k

but to buy it only for the vendor????

[badpenny]

I asked you if the vendor roll is there, because the knob on the right must be attached to something.

BP

[mastereddy69]

Sorry badpenny I misunderstood. Yes, the knob is there but, when I take the front casting off, there is no vendor. The knob goes from one side to the other, but nothing attached to it.

[badpenny]

That's a blighter, if the roll dispenser had been intact it wouldn't have taken much to get that working.

[mastereddy69]

Does anyone know what that little glass window is on the top left of the front of the machine?

[coppinpr]

Window for the coin denominator? It's a bit small but looks like one. BP will know.

[badpenny]

I haven't got a clue.
Every Tura Bell I've owned had it, but it lines up with nothing on the inside.

My only suggestion is they used the same castings for the other bandit they made (can't think of its name, but it's also in Dieter's book) it had no jack pot and the bottom half was all vendor. In fact if you look carefully at The Tura you'll see where the middle is cut out by hand so the jack pot has space to fit.
Anyhow what I was going to say before I wandered off for a moment, perhaps the other machine had a coin view window that lined up. Just not on the Tura Bell.

BP

[treefrog]

I have just noticed that the well known dealer in Belgium Werner Paredis has a picture of a trailer load of parts and machines he bought a while back on his Facebook page and is loaded with Turas......maybe worth pinging him an email.....he is on the site as Coinopbelgium, but is not a contributor sadly ....



http://www.coinopeurope.com/en/enhome/

[mastereddy69]

Thank you treefrog , for sure I will send him an email. Maybe he can help me out with some parts I need.

[faautomater]

My first restoration was also an old rusty Tura. I had no clue what everything was and it looked like this.

The learning curve was almost as rough as the condition of the machine, but after some 300 hours, it was done. Yours does look nearly as bad, so you should have it knocked out in half that time

I wrote a bunch of articles / tips on restoring various Tura machines. They're in Danish, but perhaps the images and the Google translate option can give you some pointers. I also have a box of Tura parts in the attic (though no original payout table) should your other leads turn cold.

[mastereddy69]

Hello faautomater, thank you for your post. You did a wonderful job on the Tura. Your pictures will help me for sure and if I need parts I will give you a shout for sure.

Greetings Albert.

[mills]

If you need images to re-built your machine : https://retro-jackpot.fr/tura

[mastereddy69]

Thank you Mills, I found that site too. It's really helping me with putting it all back together. Made myself lots of pictures too. The only thing I don't like is that it looks like some parts are brand new or spray painted like a silver colour? But that is personal. I am stripping and cleaning the mechanism to bring it back to its natural state. I mean the machine is what, 80 years old. I think it looks better that way.

But again that is personal.

Greetings

Albert

[santelmann]

Does anyone know what that little glass window is on the top left of the front of the machine?

Normaly is a small numbered disc (2 ,4,8,12,16,20), driven by some gears from payout unit, behind the window.
It shows the value of last profit.
In 99% the parts a missing. I knew only 2 machines that still have this item.

[santelmann]

@Albert:
The right reel of your machine is from a (wrecked) Kasus. Notice the gear inside the reel.
Here some pics of my machine during restoration.

[treefrog]

That’s interesting the first Tura in this thread has a 10 stop mechanism and your machine last one posted unless my eyes are deceiving me has a 30 stop version. I have seen 25 and 28, but never 30. I see though limited pay holes and reel strips are a little odd. What is the story with this machine

[santelmann]

The Kasus was the last Tura machine with approval by authorities. You've seen right, it has 30 Stop positions, but only the white space between the geometric symbols is profit zone.
System is:
-Insert coin, pull handle
-Start machine reels running by push left brake button
-Hard push on brake buttons stops reels
-After stop reels you have to "shift" reels with soft touch on brake buttons to a "profit combination"
Running time (and shifting possible) is from left to right reel: 2 1/2, 3 1/2, 4 1/2 seconds.
So you have to play against the clockwork inside.
Link to Kasus advertisement:
https://retro-jackpot.fr/images/phocaga ... arz-11.jpg

After war no one wants to have machines with Kasus system. They were all wrecked, in most cases to build up "normal" machines. In some cases Kasus parts appear in "normal" Tura machines, like the one wheel with gear inside at first machine in this thread.

At the moment I prepare the Kasus for Automateum-Convention this month. If machine is running I post you a video link.

[mastereddy69]

@Albert:
The right reel of your machine is from a (wrecked) Kasus. Notice the gear inside the reel.

WOW.... I just keep learning about this every day.

[mastereddy69]

And is it true that the mechanisms of a Tura were made by Mills or is that not true?