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Re: Oliver Whales 9 Results allwin identified

Postby coppinpr » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:52 am

I'm not convinced that this is, or ever has been, a '9 Results'
I think its pretty clear it was never a 9 results. My guess is it was a "Win a Gift" but certainly not worth trying to return it to Win a Gift. It would destroy what remains of its last incarnation. I would either keep it as a 7 cup 9 results(?) if I wanted to keep the artwork, or turn it into a "Strato-Play" or "Playball" if I wanted to keep the playfield correct. This would require only changing the artwork as those two used exactly the playfield this machine has.
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Re: Oliver Whales 9 Results allwin identified

Postby brigham » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:09 am

Not exactly the same playfield.
"Win a Gift" has a lost hole.
The mystery machine has the losing cups on the gallery, same as Allwin Deluxe.
The mystery deepens...

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Re: Oliver Whales 9 Results allwin identified

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Re: Oliver Whales 9 Results allwin identified

Postby coppinpr » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:18 pm

My guess is the lose hole is there, under the new backflash. Can the owner tell us, just out of interest?

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Re: Oliver Whales 9 Results allwin identified

Postby brigham » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:11 pm

The shape of the inner ring is wrong for a machine with a lose hole.
The ball never runs inside the inner ring, if there is no lose hole, remember.
We have so far discovered what the machine is not.
All we need to do now is find out what it is!

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Re: Oliver Whales allwin with '9 Results' flash

Postby tammy » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:39 pm

The Evapo-rust ordered off ebay never came as the company ran out and refunded my money... Will have to try its merits in the new year now as I have used white vinegar and baking soda and left itbon in 30 min runs till I rinse off with warm water and an old toothbrush and cloths. Results quite good actually, especially on brass but even metal It's getting there!
Started putting some bits together as it's not really the time of year for this work, unless you have a good workshop.
It's not finished, but this gives an idea on how it's coming along.
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Re: Oliver Whales allwin with '9 Results' flash

Postby tammy » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:34 pm

No win hole under the blackflash coppinpr, the door and inner workings seem to have been a 1930s type machine. It has the clicking win knob but some bits now missing. Possibly an Oliver Whales conversion or some owner has done it. I will show internal parts at a later day. I am not worried about it being a 100% 9 results as I think it's how it's spent quite a lot of its life and looks interesting. It's supposed to have come from Bridlington.

Glad I bought it, but it was in such a very very dirty state on closer inspection and although I have done up restoration machines before I would not like to take another on as black as it was. Everything seemed in that black state although the screws seemed to come out well which with distressed machines often isn't the case.

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Re: Oliver Whales allwin with '9 Results' flash

Postby brigham » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:56 am

WOW!
There's a lot more useable '9 Results' backflash than originally apparent.
I'd be inclined to make a '7 Results' topflash, and fill the playfield corners with something unobtrusive, to make a 'machine that never was'.
A sort of Triton or Norvin, to use motorcycle terms...

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Re: Oliver Whales allwin with '9 Results' flash

Postby tammy » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:45 pm

Thank you for all your comments. It's come back to life again today, taking the old pennies and delivering the ball and was even paying out 2 coins for a win. Earlier today I had to straighten out a rather bent payout slide in my vice, and then found the bar linkage to it needed straightening. Seems people must have been trying to turn the win knob when it was in the rusty seized unrestored condition. The slide is working ok, but needs a couple more screws in it!

I took pictures of the mechanism before restoring as a guide but then had to use common sense on the bent 2 bits. I have posted a picture as it's as good as done. Topflash - I have put a Win A Frys Milk Crunch topflash for now as it was easily at hand.

To think I haven't had any rechroming done - used simple cleaning products and Pound shop yacht varnish etc. It shows you can restore on a shoe string with great results.

On sanding down a case before varnishing for a novice I would say don't go daft on sanding and overdoing it. I don't really go into white wood but imagine how it might look with the varnish on top. Wipe down with a clean cloth dampened with white spirit on after sanding to clear away dust; varnish in warm to hot conditions and you will learn by practice. On a safety note, buy a packet of masks for when you sand so you don't breath all the dust. Usually only £2 for 10 or even 20 masks.
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Re: Oliver Whales allwin with '9 Results' flash

Postby badpenny » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:58 pm

Excellent, well done, you must be pleased. It's a good feeling isn't it?

When you put a back on it it'll also make the case more solid. Make sure you get it squared otherwise you might find the doors either jam or don't sit straight.

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