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The Most Reliable One Arm Bandit

Postby cheeky » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:09 pm

In terms of build quality, engineering and reliability, which in your opinion, is the best one arm bandit?

Maybe not in terms of aesthetic qualities but I reckon it must be the Aristocrat.

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Re: The Most Reliable One Arm Bandit

Postby badpenny » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:44 pm

I agree that the Australian bandits are bomb proof, we keep saying so on here don't we?

However when we look to include escalators and jack pots as a common fitting (I know both Aristocrat & Jubilee did issue machines with either or both) I've always rated the latter Jennings (Governors and Chiefs) as very efficient ..... when well maintained.
The weakest part being the chain driven escalator.

It was always my Uncle's ambition to have a line of them, but it never happened due to: -
-High purchase price
-Lowest denomination commonly was a thrupenny bit, punters preferred 1d at seaside arcades.
.... so until the end he retained his uneven line of oddly painted Segas and Arcadians not to mention the English Gunther Wullf conversions.

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Re: The Most Reliable One Arm Bandit

Postby treefrog » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:46 pm

I suspect all machines have their issues and Aristocrats are no exception. Two main issues from my experience are the later machines with the reel tins or should I call them plastics and the star wheels. The early machines has metal tins like most machines and then moved to a nylon type black plastic, which was ok and the to a clear brittle plastic. Also the star wheels started with metal, moved to nylon, which works well but can after time break.

Aristocrats do not have complicated coin handling, which has to be one of the biggest issues on a lot of machines.....simple definitely means reliable.

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Re: The Most Reliable One Arm Bandit

Postby coppinpr » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:52 am

When we say reliable what do we actually mean? do we mean when a new machine was added to an arcade how often did it need attention if correctly maintained and at what age did it become more trouble than it was worth ?(as this is what the factory was aiming at) or do we mean how well has it stood up to 60 or 70 years of (mis)use? (as the factory would never have believed that possible) :lol:

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Re: The Most Reliable One Arm Bandit

Postby badpenny » Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:49 am

My understanding of the word "reliable" applies to something/body and is more of an anticipation than a definite.

Something or somebody that you can expect to be trusted.
Such anticipation being based on your previous experiences and proven quality thereby earning your trust.

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Re: The Most Reliable One Arm Bandit

Postby coppinpr » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:51 pm

although your definition is a Little "un reliable" being as it is a bit vague it does as you say lead to the expectations of the machine buyer,he would have bought machines in the knowledge that that particular maker made machines that were (or could be expected to be) reliable. there fore it would hint that my first definition of what do we mean by a reliable bandit would be the one we are talking about in this thread !SMARTY!
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Re: The Most Reliable One Arm Bandit

Postby badpenny » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:59 pm

The only thing I know for sure about the future is that at some point everyone of us will die.
It's not predictable when, regardless of whatever your dose is.

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Re: The Most Reliable One Arm Bandit

Postby cheeky » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:30 pm

I never knew that your uncle was an operator BadPenny. Interesting to hear that Jennings would have been his machine of choice if they’ve been available on 1d.

Reliability means not breaking down, with minimal maintenance.

I remember the Aristocrats on mass at arcades in the early 1970s. They always seemed to need little to no maintenance. The Ballys seemed to have handle problems. The Sega Windsors were always working but rarely did anyone play them. Was it the strange disconnect from the handle to the mech that was the issue?

TreeFrog makes a good point in relation to changing materials. Back in the day, I’d swap all the parts back to metal ones just for fun. I had so much time back then.

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Re: The Most Reliable One Arm Bandit

Postby badpenny » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:28 pm

My Uncle's reasoning behind wishing he had Jennings was nothing more than improved reliability equalled less down time, but most importantly less wages to spend on Goffers like me.

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Re: The Most Reliable One Arm Bandit

Postby cheeky » Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:45 pm

I am sure he would have loved to see his favourite nephew servicing his machines. Have you ever posted any photos of his arcade?


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