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12 Win Clock

Postby flashbk13 » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:17 am

Hi all,
Been awhile since I was in here. I just picked up a short style adjustable jackpot version twelvewin clock. Mine is stamped on the mech and the cabinet #28, so does that mean this is a very early release and put it at 1947? It needs restored, but as dirty and neglected as it is, actually plays and pays out correctly so far, but don't want to use it much until I clean and oil it properly (I'll be using US .50c coins, but seems to run on any coin that is close to a large size English penny).

My questions (so far) are:

How do I set that inner payout indicator dial (for the proper payout numbers in the little circles to match what I have the payout lever set to...24);

Where does that jackpot lever go on the right side of the machine next to the coin tube? (When I re-positioned the mech as it was not bolted down), I placed it inside that "handle" on the side of the coin tube. Seems to want to go there, but the lower part of the "handle" doesn't raise high enough to trip the lever to release the jackpot door;

What is that single "L" bracket near the jackpot area for?

I can see bits of the black and gold under the paint (seems someone painted over it) thru holes in the repaint. Can I use stripper chemical to remove the top layer and not destroy/ remove the original crinkle finish?

Thank you all for your help, Rick from way over the other side of the great big pond (Ontario, Calif.)

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby treefrog » Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:05 am

Hello Rick,

Pushing your post back up as I am sure lots of people can help as we all own at least one clock. Number 24 sounds very low, I have thought Bryans serial numbers started 101, being machine number one. There should be a few places the number is stamped, bottom of frame, rear door for a start.

Good luck getting the paint off, as if it's original crackle paint underneath, it may be a challenge, as I suspect that was old and flaky to start with. I am sure someone may have a tip on that.

I have never owned the variable payout version, but answers to your questions on the jackpot - can you show us a picture of what bits you are talking about? May help advise.


!!THUMBSX2!!

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby pennymachines » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:51 am

If memory serves me right, the 'jackpot lever' goes underneath what you're calling the 'handle' (loop of metal), not inside it. That would explain why it's not lifting sufficiently.

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby flashbk13 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:46 pm

Hi Treefrog and Pennymachines. Thank you for bumping this up top :D The machine is definitely marked 28. It is physically stamped into the top metal crossbar (not ink printed like the later ones), right side and also physically stamped into the wood base just outside the wooden back door. There are no missing numerals. I will get a pic of the one in the base, and try to get the metal stamp as well (at least I know that mech goes with that cabinet !!THUMBSX2!! ). I will also look around to see if there are any other numbers. I will take a pic of the paper dial where you will see holes under each time number that indicate win amounts for each position. That can be rotated either way to line up the proper win amount per hole. Example, I have my 12midnite pay set for 24, but there is a 6 showing with part of the 24 showing. I looked behind the face to find this disc, but could not. I need to replace the paper dial (which I found in another post on this site), but they are too small and don't have the holes. If I can figure how to enlarge the dial face pics, then I should be able to use a hole punch. As for the paint, I will have to wait and see if anyone else here can help on that. Thank you both for your replies, Rick.

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby flashbk13 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:21 pm

Hi all,
Here are some pics of my clock. You can clearly see the 28 stamped into the wood, but the blurry pic of the 28 stamped into the metal crossbar can be made out (hard to get that pic). The rest you can see the little win amount numerals are not centered (can't see the other selections from this angle that are just inside the right edged of the circles). You can see the payout section with that jackpot lever and that "L" bracket with nothing attached to it. Any help and information would be great. Enjoy, Rick
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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby highfield » Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:21 pm

Hi Rick
I thought I would post a few pictures taken Four years ago when I had to renew the paper front on my twelve win in the hope they may be of use to you.
Fortunately a member on this site made me the replacement paper front. Like you I had difficulty in finding one the right size and without the numbers on the paper.
Your one, like mine has the numbers behind the holes.
After fitting the paper to the plate I cut the holes outs with a scalpel blade.
The guy that helped me has a website www.endofpier.com where you could contact him should you need to. His name is Jim. You could mention he did one for me four years ago. Hope this is of help
John
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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby bryans fan » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:26 pm

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Picture of my jackpot.

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby flashbk13 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:53 pm

Thank you highfield and Bryans fan for your help and pictures, Rick

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby flashbk13 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:22 pm

Hi bryans fan. So what does that "L" bracket do on your machine? iI it somehow connected to the jackpot to keep the coin tube "handle" and JP lever elevated? My JP tube sits too low, so it doesn't raise high enough for the lever to trip the JP dump. Thank you, Rick

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby pennymachines » Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:25 pm

JP ventured a theory on that question in 2016.
john t peterson wrote:
Wed May 11, 2016 12:26 am
The lever in question swings over the payout tube (manually positioned by the operator) to prevent the coin tube from rising, thus preventing any payouts or maybe keeping the coins safe during transport of the machine. For those unfamiliar with the game, the payout tube is raised to the appropriate height for a "win" and the coins at the bottom of the tube, now unprotected by the metal cylinder, are knocked out and fall into the payout cup.
pennymachines wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:51 am
If memory serves me right, the 'jackpot lever' goes underneath what you're calling the 'handle' (loop of metal), not inside it. That would explain why it's not lifting sufficiently.
Sorry - I 'm not sure that was correct...


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