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Roma Flotilla

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:55 pm
by treefrog
Finally got around to completing a few Vale Roma’s I have had for many a year. The first bought 12 years ago and most had issues with mechanisms and coin delivery. Stupidly I took 4 apart without finishing the previous ones and ended up with boxes of bits I had forgotten where they came from. Then I stupidly in helping other collectors with issues sold parts forgetting where they came from. So after many many hours all are rebuilt with working lights, just a few tweaks to do. Why do I have 5, I have no idea....one has odd memories, as I was picking it up 9 years ago when I got a call that my old man was rushed into hospital, by the time I got there he was dead....

Anyway as you can tell I like Romas, anything that lights up and glows, also collect light up signs for same reason. Someone visited recently, a non-slots collector, saw the machines and said “they are ugly !PUZZLED! nice machines have lots of chrome....”. Maybe he was right...

I want a blue one, someone told me they had seen one, but I never have. I did have a blue curved front Vale version Manhattan with the top box...
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Next onto the 6 Duomats !PUNISH!

Re: Roma Flotilla

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:10 pm
by moonriver
They look quite nice all lit up in a row

Re: Roma Flotilla

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:51 pm
by badpenny
Yes I like those too.
I remember them well as a child, plus they have one of my favourite mechs.
Excellent stuff TF

BP !THUMBS!

Re: Roma Flotilla

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:20 am
by tallstory
Any chance of seeing inside one? Pretty please.

Re: Roma Flotilla

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:36 am
by dutchboy
Very well done! Looks very nice, be carefull to run out of machines with the second wave of corona. !!ESCAPE!!

Re: Roma Flotilla

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:30 pm
by malcymal
Fabulous. I got mine out the other day from loft eave, the yellow one. The inner coin slide fell out when I opened it up as the rubber band holding the two halves together had perished. I think it was you who came to my house to examine mine. I seem to think we ended up using a rubber band on yours too for something?

A quick rummage in my wife's drawers and then a look in the kitchen draw, new band fitted. Penny in and off she went, albeit the fascinating 15 second spin cycle. The top win of 10 is incredibly hard to win, in fact any win is pretty hard to win. I worked out the average return was 60% on mine. It's amusing too because 4, 6, 8 and 10 wins give a very positive clunk on payout, the 2 win is just a plink. Often as not on a 2 win nothing happens for about 10 seconds then the two old pennies trickle out.

Mine lights up too after rewiring and replacing the old Phillips' chokes. I'm just trying to convince my wife that it's okay to put in our newly renovated lounge as it would fit the yellow ceiling light shade and Ikea cushions. She might buy it.

What was the cheapest you paid for one? I think mine was 140 quid. Bought it blind in a flea market as the locks had no keys so couldn't test it.

Whilst going through the loft eave, i also got out my German bergmann Hobby machine out which was one of Harold English's. Regrettably shes not working correctly. Im hoping that some switch cleaner might sort her out. Thats the trouble with the german electro mechanicals from the 50s, with people like Harold no longer with us its pretty hard to get help to work out whats going on. Theres three spinning discs, you choose your number you are going for and the first and second reel stop with a number, the total is what you win. You then have to stop the middle disc, or leave it to stop on its own and if its your selected number you win. My right disc stops, the middle disc stops and the first just pootles to a stop without the brake kicking in. All the other machines worked fine, by rialto bingolette, the jubilee mk1 and a jap pachislo too. thanks for sharing your marvelous flotilla of Romas!!

Re: Roma Flotilla

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:49 pm
by treefrog
Wasn’t me that came to your house. What is broken on your machine......

Funny today I picked up some handy spares for Beromat machines and apart from coin chutes etc, I also now have 26 full sets of slides without breaks........think there won’t be a shortage for a while. Oddly I had used up all my spares as virtually every machine I go near has one or two broken...

Re: Roma Flotilla

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:38 am
by geofflove
malcymal wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:30 pm
Theres three spinning discs, you choose your number you are going for and the first and second reel stop with a number, the total is what you win. You then have to stop the middle disc, or leave it to stop on its own and if its your selected number you win. My right disc stops, the middle disc stops and the first just pootles to a stop without the brake kicking in.
I don’t know this specific machine but have worked on a few other German ones. Pop a volt meter across the brake solenoid. If it’s receiving voltage at the appropriate time when it should operate it’s likely a broken coil wire on the brake solenoid. They sometimes break between the terminal and the main part if the coil and can sometimes be repaired or if not rewound. If there’s no voltage there then it’s likely the cam switch that operates it.

Re: Roma Flotilla

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:40 pm
by special when lit
treefrog wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:49 pm
Wasn’t me that came to your house. What is broken on your machine......

Funny today I picked up some handy spares for Beromat machines and apart from coin chutes etc, I also now have 26 full sets of slides without breaks........think there won’t be a shortage for a while. Oddly I had used up all my spares as virtually every machine I go near has one or two broken...
Hi T/F. Don't suppose you have a handle plate in that useful pile, do you?

Re: Roma Flotilla

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:53 pm
by treefrog
special when lit wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:40 pm
Hi T/F. Don't suppose you have a handle plate in that useful pile, do you?

Hens teeth comes to mind as with a few other parts,

no, just what is in picture.....main parts here often break being slides and the coin acceptor frame....

The handles assembly takes a hammering and the weak pot metal seems most affected here, especially the internal clamp which crumble. I have broken up at least 6 machines to use as parts over the years, often ones with too many issues like rotten cabinets....

It’s funny these spares came from an operator who I know had quite a few british converted machines and looking at the coin chutes, I reckon these conversions were often done by operators as these parts look like complete items to convert a machine to old penny and are new old stock.