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badpenny wrote: Alternatively it's smoke, mirrors, Crackerjack pencils and bacon rind. !!RAYOF!!
I prefer the smoke and mirrors theory....;)
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There was once a time that Japanese carry everything not attached to the homeland and put it into microscopical parts.
And when they found not yet patented inventions !!IDEA!!
I find one of this what could have been a Wheel 'Em In mechanism !PUZZLED!
Patent number: JP2004054551 (A)
Publication date: 2004-02-19
Inventor(s): KOBAYASHI KUNIHIKO

MEDAL CONVEYOR, MEDAL DISPENSER, AND GAME MACHINE

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Watch this space...
I know the buyer of the 'Wheel Em In' off ebay...... he's picking it up tomorrow. He says he's going to join the site. I said he could borrow my van to fetch it, but it's too big to go in (one of the reasons he bid), so he's hired a bigger one. He now blames me for him bidding so much........ :lol:
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jimmycowman wrote:Watch this space...
I know the buyer of the 'Wheel Em In' off ebay...
That's great. I hope to learn more about it.
Meantime, this is how Crompton's Roll A Win works (using microprocessors, stepper motors, etc.)

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There is a Roll a Win Double Player on eBay if anyone is interested:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Roll-Win-doub ... 1c258051ef
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Allow me to pull this out of the bin again :-(
I just asked myself if the MI5 !SOFA! has a thumb on the inner things of this machine, no other way to explicate for me the leak of photos. !!ESCAPE!!
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Now I last worked with the Wheel 'Em In in 1978 in East Yorks, so my memory is rusty. However, they had a bank of small 'make-or-break' switches at the back with pairs of switches at both edges of each of the white payout strips. The coin coming off the back of the main belt simply 'made' a pair of switches if it was between the lines, triggering the payout. They had to be exactly in line, but sometimes ended out of alignment, either not paying out or paying out when they shouldn't, so we had to adjust them a lot, and this machine was notorious for giving you 'belts' due to all the exposed switches. Most electromechanical machines at the time used a solenoid payout which simply pulled back a slide with a hole containing the coin or stack of coins, the size of hole and depth of slide depending on the denomination and number of coins. In the 70s this was 3p and 6p with this machine, so the slide could hold 3 x 1p at a time and the slide pulled back once to drop three 1ps or twice to drop two lots of 1ps. There were usually three separate playing areas, each with a coin payout tube in the centre which rolled the payouts down the glass. A fault with the machine was a metal reinforcing strap which connected the front of the case at the top to the back of the case, which meant if you hit the side hard in the right place it jarred the switches, causing them to pay out. I found that disconnecting the strap stopped this. Apart from a coin on a string, a favourite trick with this machine was to roll up a strip of silver cigarette paper and try and push it down the coin shute in the hope it would fall onto the belt across two black lines, or try and push it in the gap at the side between the case and the glass lid.

Somebody on this strand mentioned the amusements in Piccadilly, London. Originally Playland, it got into the News of the World for various reasons and was renamed Piccadilly Amusements. I worked there in '80, but it was knocked down the following year to make way for the Trocadero leisure centre.
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There used to be a "Roll a Win" game down Barry Island years ago. Used to love playing it! The sound of the "bang" and all the coins flying down the glass towards you after you hit a win was great! Happy days........ !!BRRRR!!
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the amusements in Piccadilly, London. Originally Playland, it got into the News of the World for various reasons and was renamed Piccadilly Amusements. I worked there in '80,
I remember the old playland, I worked in Lots-o-Fun in Wardor St and Cambridge Circus in the late '70s ,they all cropped up in the News of the world, cant imagine why. I always hold that I was doing a public service by letting the street girls shelter in the arcade out of the rain. We had a workshop in the basement of Wardor St, it was nice and warm down there. Poor things, they often had to take their clothes off just to get dry !SAINT!
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Well it was called Lots-o-Fun, however I thought the "Roll a Win" games just took your money off you. :o
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Hi,
From today, there is a new offer of a Wheel 'Em In in ebay. I will ask him for pictures of the mechanics (If the MI5 agree !SAINT! )
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-VERY ... 2ec6fabf6e
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I was right, there is no possibility (for me) to talk to the seller. !PUZZLED!
MI5 ? maybe, or Gladio or Stay-Behind. There must be a military secret about this machine !!RANT!!
So, perhaps somebody else could make a try ?
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Hi Cleantex :D
This is the second time this machine has been on Ebay in the last month, I managed to get some photos first time round but didn't bother to bid as it is too big for me :!?!:
It looks to be a very simple mech for such a big machine... just a row of metal fingers to detect the coins. :tarah:
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Thanks for the pictures,
Finally to see the inner circle !THUMBS!
But somewhere is a little disappointing, simple metal fingers and before all, manual feed up of the coin tubes :roll:
No conveyor for the coins. Always a great machine and... a big one.
The secret is resolved.

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I've always wanted to know how the payout tubes get filled? !PUZZLED!
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Me also, but I think it's by hand, I see no other option.

Or perhaps this part is missing, because the tubes are in descending way and shaped also like this. The black tube seems to be an overflow for the coins. So, it can be that this machine is not complete.
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I plump for an Archimedes Screw.

1 - There's a an easy power source in the form of the end axle for the conveyor.

2 - Looking at the payout tubes they have angled tops suggesting a flow down slope across the range.

3 - At the end is a black tube for the overflow.


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No, no, no.
When I worked in the arcade on Rhyl fairgound our Wheel 'Em In had a little man who lived in the back
and kept the payout tubes full.
Delightful, coppery-coloured wee chap too but very hard of hearing due to all those pennies raining down on him.
Mystery solved. Next?
!SMARTY!
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That is the answer, a little man !
Finally I arrived to find some pictures from him, just changing a bulb in the front panel. %|%
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I don't buy the idea that the operator had to refill coin tubes. Maybe on this late version - or maybe it's been altered? I'm not sure I accept the little man theory either. There's a spider, top right, in slotalot's picture. Could she have been trained to do the job?
No, I reckon there was some kind of conveyor. Paul Mitchel, in The Artful Dodgers, describes cheating the machine using pennies on string:
Paul Mitchel wrote:For some reason, the original pennies never returned amongst our winnings (years later I discovered what havoc they were causing to the innards of the machine).
Paul worked in the arcade as an adult and his comment suggests the mechanism was designed to recycle the players' coins.
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