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Re: Coventry Auction - 29 November 2009

Postby badpenny » Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:08 pm

It's the lesser of two evils really, in order to be able to pay out the vendors on the day we need to get the money in first. As it was, and despite it all being explained in the conditions of sale in the catalogue and clearly spelt out by Jerry before the auction we still had two numpties who couldn't pay their tab because they were relying on their lots selling.

As for the break in the middle we decided not to do it due to the large number of lots (nearly 300) the decision to soldier on and not finish late meant we ended at a nice early finish.
I guess not everybody comes for the social experience and a chance to catch up with faces they haven't seen for a year, they merely want to look, buy and go. The other side of that coin is that by the time Jerry and I go which is usually an hour and a half after the last payout we usually still have up to a couple of dozen people standing around chewing the cud, who literally have to be forced out of the door. :D

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Re: Coventry Auction - 29 November 2009

Postby JC » Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:37 pm

We can't please all of the people all of the time, but I do think we please most of the people most of the time. Putting aside the practicallities of paying in early, I really don't believe the majority want to have their enjoyment spoiled by one-armed bandits being wheeled out on sack barrows half way through the auction.

Was it really such a long day for everyone? I doubt there were many who had to stumble out of bed before me (4.30 am), and I doubt there were many who got home after me (about 10.00 pm). As BP says above, one of our problems at the end of the day is actually getting rid of people! We did accept early payment from a few buyers last year (which I vowed I would not be doing this time, as it was very disruptive), one of whom then proceeded to prop up the bar for the rest of the day! :dammit:

I guess we'll never please everyone, but unless the number of lots in future years increases dramatically (which I don't want to see happen :shock: ), then I think the system is likely to stay as it is.

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Re: Coventry Auction - 29 November 2009

Postby Bent Copper » Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:37 pm

JC wrote: I really don't believe the majority want to have their enjoyment spoiled by one-armed bandits being wheeled out on sack barrows half way through the auction.
On the contrary, it provides an interesting diversion, and makes extra space on the tables for sitting on. :D

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Re: Coventry Auction - 29 November 2009

Postby treefrog » Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:32 pm

On the contrary, it provides an interesting diversion, and makes extra space on the tables for sitting on
I would disagree with this, it would be a nightmare if people were shoving past you trying to shuffle machines past your legs while your trying to just get that bid in. Space is tight as it is and would distract form the overall atmosphere. In any case what would we have to lean on :-?

Auctions should be fun and perhaps people should relax more and make a day of it. The only way you could do this would be to have an oversized auction room to cater for the movement.

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Re: Coventry Auction - 29 November 2009

Postby bryans fan » Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:34 pm

Given the size of the venue, which I think is just right, and the number of people involved in running the event, the only way that early paying in and collecting machines before the end of the auction could work, would be I suspect, by Jerry employing two more people. One to take the money and more importantly one to man the door and check the lots out. This would undoubtedly add to the costs and therefore an increase in the commission %, catalogue price, lot entry fees etc. The 6% commission is actually incredibly low at present compared to most auction houses and especially Sotherbys and Christies who used to sell slots, and by the time their % was added plus VAT it made a huge difference to the price.
As it is Jerry was helped by a few volunteers, especially Kevin on the door.
I think as it is run by and organised by and promoted by the two J`s we should respect their rules and if you don`t agree then don`t go.

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Re: Coventry Auction - 29 November 2009

Postby badpenny » Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:51 pm

It would take more than two extra as a duplicate computer on a local network to the main one would have to be rigged up to run in tandem.
It ain't going to happen so enjoy your day out and make the most of your loved ones allowing you a whole 6 hours dedicated to your hobby. :D

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Re: Coventry Auction - 29 November 2009

Postby special when lit » Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:16 pm

I want to look at the prices, but I can't get into the Arena. I sent me £2 off ages ago, but my password doesn't seen to work, any ideas?

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Re: Coventry Auction - 29 November 2009

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Re: Coventry Auction - 29 November 2009

Postby Bent Copper » Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:47 am

OK I've had this fantastic idea - you'll love this. :D

We've all got bidder numbers, right? When somebody has finished bidding, he hands his bidder number in. This automatically prevents him from bidding on any more lots.

These numbers are all stacked up in the order in which they were handed in. At the end of the auction, these numbers are called out to determine the order of payment. (Anybody who misses their call just gets put to the end.)

So, the people who finish bidding early, get to pay first, and nobody has to stand around in a queue for hours at the end. They can sit down in comfort, go outside, talk to their friends, go to the bog, sit at the bar, etc. as long as they are in the room when their number is called.

I'm a genius. :cool:

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Re: Coventry Auction - 29 November 2009

Postby coin-op » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:30 am

Well, firstly, that may start to deter some people from holding on to their bidding slips and bidding on later items...not in the interests of the sellers or the auctioneers. Secondly, I can just see a mass of bidders who have handed in their bidding slips congragating around the auctioneers platform...and you've guessed it, the next bidding slip number number they call out belongs to a guy at the back who takes a minute or two to get to the front...or doesn't hear and then there is a two minute wait to see if he did hear and is actually pushing his way to the front. Oh, and then there is the person they employ to call out the numbers whilst Jerry and Jeremy are dealing with whoever is actually at their desk paying in. Then, if many of the people who are paying in are sellers and want to wait for their cash, then your proposal only benefits a small group of people. And apart from the stress of running the auction, it just adds another layer to the auction cake.


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