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Helicopter Race

Postby treefrog » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:55 am

As posted by JC, the pictures from the Bygones Vintage Arcade under the MMM section, I noticed the Helicopter game in the background, there is a Ruffler and Walker Helicopter Race machine on ebay at the moment, unfortunately in the States ....serious $$ though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/rare-Ruffler-Walker ... 0764689048
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Re: Helicopter Race

Postby coin-op » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:03 am

They are great machines. A friend offered me one of these many years ago, but foolishly thinking that there was a point when you had too much stuff, I turned it down. Anyway, it then got sold on and I helped him to deliver it. We stood it up in a car park (much like the day in the picture you posted) and I looked at it and thought ' I made a mistake there!'. Strangely enough, I have almost a complete mechanism for one of these (as you do)...and it's getting nearer and nearer the 'must do' point....so just wait for 2016 to hit us. :#:

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Re: Helicopter Race

Postby pennymachines » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:16 am

I understand the helicopter rotors are turned by an electric fan concealed beneath the "sea" but I can't see anything resembling this in the pictures. !PUZZLED! Is it hidden beneath that bit of hardboard skirting?
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Re: Helicopter Race

Postby daveslot » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:50 pm

I noticed in the ad there were only 4 examples in the States. That's probably more than are left over here.

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Re: Helicopter Race

Postby coin-op » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:41 am

PennyMachines wrote:I understand the helicopter rotors are turned by an electric fan concealed beneath the "sea" but I can't see anything resembling this in the pictures. !PUZZLED! Is it hidden beneath that bit of hardboard skirting?
I've always wondered if motors were supplied originally with the machines or whether it's just an operator add-on that has created an urban myth. Certainly the mechanism I have, whilst incomplete, neither has any such device nor signs of one having ever been attached (no obvious drill holes, brackets etc). Also, once the helicopters leave their rest position, unless you had a force nine gale in there, the blades would cease to rotate as the helicopters move upwards and away from any motor. The machine featured in the Dome exhibition had a modern fan in it, but don't know whether that was an add-on or a replacement of something which was in there already. Certainly when in use, the blades ceased to rotate as the helicopters moved upwards. I believe that the motor would need to be sited under the sea and under the helicopters. I'd personally think that a small motor might be needed under each helicopter in order to provide a focused updraft.

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Re: Helicopter Race

Postby pennymachines » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:22 pm

Coin-op wrote:Certainly when in use, the blades ceased to rotate as the helicopters moved upwards.
Hmmn... See what you mean.


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One of these sold in a local auction house in my early days of collecting. I seem to recall it made £800 which seemed a lot at the time. I didn't even leave a bid, having not been overly impressed by the game's aesthetics (in particular, the painted hardboard), rather basic play appeal and mammoth scale. Must say, the examples above look better than I recall or maybe I'm less fussy these days. Floor space, however, has become more of an issue...

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Re: Helicopter Race

Postby treefrog » Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:43 pm

Not sure if anyone owns a R&W Helicopter Race, but have been working on one having got the mechanism fully functioning including converting back to old penny I hoped someone may know the electrical side.
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Obviously there are two lights in gallery lighting up top marque. There is also a build behind the lighthouse I assume lights when a winner gets to the top, it has an inline flasher (blue arrow) unit so must flash. What I have yet to work out is what triggers this. There are also two bulb positions on the left and right hand side (green arrow) which link to the metallic strips (ref arrow) that must make contact with the helicopter lifter on reaching the top. Any idea where this should connect to.
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I suspect this machine use to have a fan with the mount on top of mechanism. There are some wires heading towards this, which seem to go via an external switch on the rear. I can only assume the fan was permanently on as I cannot see any control of this.
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Everything also seems to be 240v more worrying including all small bulbs. Maybe I have missed something as the contact from the helicopter cannot be, otherwise user would get a hell of a shock....

Still working on cabinet, but hope to have lights and a fan working to complete....

Much appreciated..

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Re: Helicopter Race

Postby gameswat » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:36 pm

Tree, wouldn't the lighthouse always flash as an attention getter? And the contact blocks for the copters either side would light either one of the two missing bulbs you mentions? I can only assume they would light up the winning side of the background depending on who won? :!?!:

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Re: Helicopter Race

Postby coppinpr » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:03 pm

The video seems to have disappeared from this thread so I've added it again, and, on this one at least, the lighthouse seems to be permanently lit (but not flashing). What's your view on the rotating blades GS and TF? Clearly the job of the fan but clearly the fan did not run all the time or even for the duration of the game? Unless the fan was mounted at the bottom, under the helicopters, then the loss of rotation makes sense.


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Re: Helicopter Race

Postby treefrog » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:34 pm

Ah yes the video confirms the lighthouse is on all the time and is how mine is wired. Looks like the flasher is not working on the one in the video. Also it looks like the fans kick in as soon as the plunger is engage and maybe runs until the first helicopter hits the contacts at the top. Next challenge to understand the cabling, especially as all 240v. I wonder if it was one or two fans, probably does not need huge power as the rotors sit on pins freely moving in the helicopter, looking at the mount holes, maybe one larger fan.

As per my picture the fans would be mounted under the sea on the frame still on mine.

Does anyone know where another one is I may be able to get some pictures of? !PUZZLED!


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