Brenco Match a Fruit

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Re: Brenco Match a Fruit

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Sell? Do you mean the house management or the machine? :!?!:
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Re: Brenco Match a Fruit

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Ha ha, yes, well I guess from the stories on here the female management have taken second fiddle to mechanical marvels. My wife has been sympathetic to my hobby although I do have to rotate machines allowed out in the house. At the minute there are four, one in dining room and three on landing. But in the loft eave cupboard there are another four machines, one a basket case I'm debating repairing. Whether she'll let me put that out as well might cause some friction.
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Re: Brenco Match a Fruit

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May I pick someone's brain regarding a Match a Fruit? Now I had a look at this machine today for a while thinking 'why won't you payout?' After looking at the relays, the payout slides, all the wiring - everything seems to be fine, until I looked at the playfield. I noticed that there is a ring of contact points and behind those are the wires all soldered on and everything, but it confused me why there isn't anything going 'round the contacts but I'm hoping that I am right that there should be something there. Has anyone got a picture of the inside of the top playfield of Match a Fruit please? Here are some photos of it:
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Re: Brenco Match a Fruit

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I love these machines, but keep missing out. It looks like it should have a sweeping arm similar to the ones found in e/m machines of the era, but normally you have an inner ring as one contact then the other goes 'round the outer edge to complete the circuit. I would need a circuit diagram or look how it's wired to give me an idea.
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Re: Brenco Match a Fruit

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Also, there's a thing or two missing here as well ..............

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You've got a reed switch dangling in mid air and the bracket has a bolt on the left which probably supported something (another switch?) possibly against the rotating cam below?
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Re: Brenco Match a Fruit

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There is a wiper blade missing for sure from that fibre contact disc. Since there is no inner contact the circuit will be earthed to the motor shaft itself - look on the back. Or, as this is a metal cabinet, the earth could even be further afield.

The other missing piece appears to just be a lever that bolts with a little freedom to the bracket, with probably a "V" at the tip or roller that will drop into the channel in the rotating fibre disc. This will then allow those contacts currently doing nothing to close, and open when the fibre disc is running. If this was a timing motor the contacts would work the other way around.
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Re: Brenco Match a Fruit

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Gameswat wrote: Since there is no inner contact the circuit will be earthed to the motor shaft itself
Approach with care Leslie! it is a Brenco machine and they are normally 240 volts throughout, and if the shaft is used as power feed to the wiper arm, it to will be passing 240 volts!!! SO BEWARE!
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Re: Brenco Match a Fruit

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Oh yeh, that I do know Stu, thanks for that. My wits are about me when it comes to this sort of thing. I would like to find some information on what is missing, such as photos as it should be. Behind the fibreboard are some soldered wires - one picture I did forget to take. Everything else works as it should and it's on old penny and the cabinet is made of wood, so what, where and how should I start first so I can get this baby working? Anyone got any ideas on where to start first? I'm not clued up for this type of machine????
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Re: Brenco Match a Fruit

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Ah, no idea it ran on such high voltage. Of course the US made machines are almost always very low voltage. So thinking it through a little longer, this time I counted the contacts on your fibre board and it comes to the even number of 22, so it seems more likely it's just an insulated double ended wiper blade making contact across the board. Which would mean one of 11 circuits made momentarily which I now see match up with the 22 fruit symbols on the front wheel. So as the wheel spins it's making a circuit across the two symbols that are showing in the winning boxes. So this allows the machine to pay out what it needs to on a winning combination.
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Re: Brenco Match a Fruit

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You just beat me to it Gameswat dirtdog I was just doing a sketch showing this very thing. :cool:

You will need to make a double ended wiper (see white arrow) in photo. This will rotate making 2 sets of contacts.
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