Saleroom roundups
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Coin-Op results from Saturday's Auction Team Köln, Breker 153rd Specialty Auction of Science & Technology, Mechanical Music, Fine Toys & Automata in the Arena.
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Thanks for posting. The Bryans machines seemed to be reasonable prices, but you have to factor in the massive average commission of 29%
I think that is the first time I have seen a crackle finish to a plain Bryans case. It's normally on the castle tops, or other machines like Retreeva, Hidden treasure, Bullion etc.
Your time and effort compiling these round ups is much appreciated.
I think that is the first time I have seen a crackle finish to a plain Bryans case. It's normally on the castle tops, or other machines like Retreeva, Hidden treasure, Bullion etc.
Your time and effort compiling these round ups is much appreciated.
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Well the prices at the moment are very strange when you look at how low the prices at the Canterbury auction were.
And how high some were and how low some were at the EH. We shall see.
Here's to 2020 sale season.
And how high some were and how low some were at the EH. We shall see.
Here's to 2020 sale season.
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The words 'buyer beware' never so relevant than with regard to these two working models recently offered at auction.
Not "late 1960s", but homemade about 5 years ago, and passed off as original 1960s working models.
No "provenance re ex Margate Amusement Park".
Poor quality pine cases, supermarket Halloween toys collected together with sound recorded onto vintage 8 track tape.
Made by the same individual previously discussed on the forum about a certain wall mounted fortune teller fake.
Apparently the seller bought these two from said individual for several thousand pounds and has only just discovered they aren't what he thought.
A simple Google search has revealed what the maker of these models is doing nowadays.........a clairvoyant no less!
So........when the duped seller turns up at his door for his money back, at least a clairvoyant can't say they didn't know what was coming
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Looks to me as if the auction house could be taken to task over these. Under the Misrepresentation Act 1967, it makes no difference whether the misrepresentation was fraudulent, negligent or an innocent mistake.
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Problem is, a lot of auction houses under their terms and conditions have absolved themselves from any responsibility to descriptions, condition and authenticity and even pass this onto the seller being responsible, which I find incredible. As said previously, what the hell are you paying the ridiculous fees these days both for buyers and sellers, terrible....
Edited as here are this auctioneers terms which unless proved a forgery it is buyers responsibility. They do all vary though, my local one even will pass on sellers' details if incorrectly described.
Edited as here are this auctioneers terms which unless proved a forgery it is buyers responsibility. They do all vary though, my local one even will pass on sellers' details if incorrectly described.
All lots are sold as shown, with all faults, imperfections and errors of description. However, if within 7 days of the sale of any lot, the buyer gives notice in writing to the Auctioneers that the lot sold is a forgery and if within 14 days of giving such notice
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I spoke with the auctioneer before the sale and they hadn't even seen the machines in person. The vendor had been well and truly stitched up and completely believed they were authentic and had spent several thousand pounds buying them direct from the maker. I suspect they didn't sell, but £200-£400 would have been a more realistic estimate
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A clear case of Fraud methinks. That’s worthy of a trip to the local cop shop if passed-off as 1960s machines. Lots of Case Law on it so the buyer should be protected if he has some evidence to support the sale regardless of what auctioneers say.
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I notice the Red and cream cigarette vendor features twice. Bought for £150, then not sold in a later auction with a £370 - £555 estimate.
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