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Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:50 pm
by mr merrivale
Well the prices at the moment are very strange when you look at how low the prices at the Canterbury auction were.
And how high some were and how low some were at the EH. We shall see.
Here's to 2020 sale season.

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:04 pm
by moonriver

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The words 'buyer beware' never so relevant than with regard to these two working models recently offered at auction.
Not "late 1960s", but homemade about 5 years ago, and passed off as original 1960s working models.
No "provenance re ex Margate Amusement Park".
Poor quality pine cases, supermarket Halloween toys collected together with sound recorded onto vintage 8 track tape.
Made by the same individual previously discussed on the forum about a certain wall mounted fortune teller fake.
Apparently the seller bought these two from said individual for several thousand pounds and has only just discovered they aren't what he thought.
A simple Google search has revealed what the maker of these models is doing nowadays.........a clairvoyant no less!
So........when the duped seller turns up at his door for his money back, at least a clairvoyant can't say they didn't know what was coming !!UHOH!!

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:29 pm
by arrgee
Looks to me as if the auction house could be taken to task over these. Under the Misrepresentation Act 1967, it makes no difference whether the misrepresentation was fraudulent, negligent or an innocent mistake.

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:44 pm
by treefrog
Problem is, a lot of auction houses under their terms and conditions have absolved themselves from any responsibility to descriptions, condition and authenticity and even pass this onto the seller being responsible, which I find incredible. As said previously, what the hell are you paying the ridiculous fees these days both for buyers and sellers, terrible....

Edited as here are this auctioneers terms which unless proved a forgery it is buyers responsibility. They do all vary though, my local one even will pass on sellers' details if incorrectly described.
All lots are sold as shown, with all faults, imperfections and errors of description. However, if within 7 days of the sale of any lot, the buyer gives notice in writing to the Auctioneers that the lot sold is a forgery and if within 14 days of giving such notice

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:08 pm
by moonriver
I spoke with the auctioneer before the sale and they hadn't even seen the machines in person. The vendor had been well and truly stitched up and completely believed they were authentic and had spent several thousand pounds buying them direct from the maker. I suspect they didn't sell, but £200-£400 would have been a more realistic estimate

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:07 pm
by cheeky
A clear case of Fraud methinks. That’s worthy of a trip to the local cop shop if passed-off as 1960s machines. Lots of Case Law on it so the buyer should be protected if he has some evidence to support the sale regardless of what auctioneers say.

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:38 pm
by pennymachines
December Saleroom round up now in the Arena.

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:36 pm
by pennymachines
January roundup now in the Arena.

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:53 pm
by bryans fan
I notice the Red and cream cigarette vendor features twice. Bought for £150, then not sold in a later auction with a £370 - £555 estimate.

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:37 pm
by pennymachines
February roundup now in the Arena.

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:32 pm
by pennymachines
March roundup now in the Arena.

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:59 pm
by moonriver
That Win-a Lot was cheap!
Nice to see a Bryans Galloper. Lethal thing though, as you watch the little sister (standing watching her older brother who pushed past her to jump on first), ram the lever straight into 'Gallop', and watches him thrown off over the front.

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:16 pm
by pennymachines
Serves him right for pushing in.

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:53 pm
by moonriver
!!THUMBSX2!!

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:55 pm
by pennymachines
April roundup now in the Arena.

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:12 pm
by bryans fan
Thanks for that. Wow some cheap machines ! Especially liked the Handani.

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:09 pm
by moonriver
:cry: I missed some good stuff there

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:13 pm
by 13rebel
Love the Torpedo Shoot.

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 2:03 pm
by pennymachines
Coin-op results in the Arena from today's sale of Science & Technology & Mechanical Music, Fine Toys & Automata, Auction Team Breker (Cologne)

Re: Saleroom roundups

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 11:46 pm
by pennymachines
Donley Auction Services held a sale yesterday in America which also offered some high-end coin-operated mechanical music machines. Final bids were often coming in at half the low estimate, and selling, which maybe reflects the current parlous economic climate. Coin-op results in the Arena.

Magnificent Multiphone Coin Op Phonograph Jukebox (Estimate: $20,000 - $30,000) hammer $10,000.