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Essex Racer identified

Postby gameswat » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:41 pm

For sale on US eBay, I'm not sure what British company made this particular version originally but this new cabinet doesn't seem right at all, well other than the cast feet. So possibly Ruffler & Walker re-vamped it from the original wooden cabinet into a streamlined tin case post WW2. Then recently some American owner converted it back into a wooden case confusing it with something made by the US company Chester Pollard! Oh the indignity. !OMFG! Been years since I worked on some of these things so I'm vague as to particular features but I'm sure PM will know. !PUZZLED! Pity they didn't bother to put back the payout cups for winning player, or maybe just didn't understand?

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Re: Greyhound 2 player Race in the USA

Postby JC » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:33 pm

Essex?

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Re: Greyhound 2 player Race in the USA

Postby jimmycowman » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:12 am

I like the 38cents....... !!YIPPEE!!

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Re: Greyhound 2 player Race in the USA

Postby brigham » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:44 am

I'm still at the learning stage. How do we know that this ISN'T by Chester Pollard?

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Re: Greyhound 2 player Race in the USA

Postby pennymachines » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:43 pm

Well, the cabinetwork appears new and doesn't conform to a known design. Chester Pollard did make a racing game but it had an oval track:
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I've never owned an Essex or Ruffler & Walker racer, so I can't comment on the mechanism I'm afraid.

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Re: Greyhound 2 player Race in the USA

Postby gameswat » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:44 pm

brigham wrote:How do we know that this ISN'T by Chester Pollard?
Many reasons. Chester Pollard was a major player in the US market and their very small output of only four different machines is well known. They never made a cabinet that looked anything like this, it's based on UK designs with claw feet. The mechanism inside this game clearly shows an upside down Y coin chute designed to take two coins(though the lower chutes and payout cup are missing) which was to send one coin to the cashbox and one back to the winning player. This form of two coins in and one back to winner seems to have never taken off in the US and I don't know of any such US made machine, was very popular in the UK though. Greyhound racing was not a popular sport to base games on in the US as very few exist, and then only small counter games that I know of. But Greyhound racing was a very popular theme in the UK. There are three well known UK makers who manufactured floor model Greyhound racing games, Ahrens, Essex and Arnold. I've seen several different models by Ahrens and restored another I think by Arnold (I'm vague as this was years ago). All those looped around either a round or oval track back to the start. While this game runs a straight race.
Add to that list Walton as that was the game I restored years ago, just found the Patent on the site.

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Re: Greyhound 2 player Race in the USA

Postby gameswat » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:30 pm

Just to be clear PM, I don't know anything about the R&W made race games they sold after the war. But I have seen up close inside a couple of the tin cased versions that look just like post war wooden cases R&W sold, but the mechs were much older 1920's. Polo seemed to be a popular re-vamp. Whether any had R&W labels I can't rightly remember but I've always thought they were responsible.
So there are at least 2 player Greyhound race games by:
Ahrens, Arnold, Essex, Ruffler & Walker and Walton.

I don't think this is by Ahrens, Ruffler & Walker or Walton, so probably by one of the other two.....

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Re: Greyhound 2 player Race in the USA

Postby pennymachines » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:39 pm

Mystery solved? Essex is the winner - ridden into first place by JC. !!HOORAY!!

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Re: Greyhound 2 player Race in the USA

Postby bryans fan » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:54 pm

I found this Game, presumably from the same stable, (pun intended) in a Sotheby's Auction Catalogue from November 1981.
Sold for £440 including buyers premium of 10%.
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Re: Greyhound 2 player Race in the USA

Postby pennymachines » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:57 pm

Yes, that's the wooden cased version. At that price, I'll have two please. :cool:


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