Pin Up and Iris Wall machine

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Re: Pin Up and Iris Wall machine

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moonriver wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 11:32 pm well you've managed to big those up nicely, i'll let you know when i'm next selling something SkEpTiCaL
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Re: Pin Up and Iris Wall machine

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I suspect this thread has turned this way due to that “unwritten rule” not to discuss items for sale before they have sold. Those watching the items, who would be many would not want to comment on condition, interest, value etc and those not interested in buying are happy to respond :HaHa:

I suspect original poster was probing and hoping to see if anyone would comment on any serious flaws not knowing enough about the machines ( eg stating on another forum people stated flaws with the machines) and I completely understand this and all of us have been in similar situations. I have even approached people directly for help in similar situations, but of course not considered those people may want it themselves, as such this is for ever the collectors dilemma... :#:

I fancy them, well the pin up girl as who can turn down a sexy bikini clad lady from the 60’s, but will be blown out of the water in this crazy market....other issue of course is dissing a machine a fellow collector may be trying to sell, I try real hard not to be overly critical anymore, it has happened to me before and you sit there pulling your teeth out in frustration, except where someone is intentionally pulling the wool over ones eyes.....

So go for them, nice looking machines !!THUMBSX2!!

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Re: Pin Up and Iris Wall machine

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We have this conversation every year usually.
And nothing changes, the only way to win an auction is to place the highest bid, and with eBay it doesn't have to be at the end.
All you have to do is agree what it's worth to you and you can bid that at the very beginning, never look at it again, and you can still win.

The biggest weakness is those that don't play the game, vendors that use the auction house as a marketing tool and sell it off the site.
We used to suffer that one with the live auctions as well. Either the crowd drawer wouldn't survive the journey from the car park to the trestle table inside or a very high reserve would be set, and then sold in the car park afterwards.
The conflict between the vendor wanting the best price and the buyer the cheapest will always produce odd opinions on what constitutes acceptable behaviour.
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Re: Pin Up and Iris Wall machine

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Mr PM has said that the 'Iris' didn't have a pediment yet on page 66 of the 'Arcadia' book it shows an Iris with pediment, though it is a different style. !PUZZLED!
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Re: Pin Up and Iris Wall machine

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That one is definitely non standard. Compare it to this early line drawing from Alte-Spielautomaten:

Original Iris
Original Iris

Apart from the typically Bussoz-style carved pediment, the front door has either been made of a single timber or, more likely, veneered; a third central door hinge; the instruction frame is inverted; the payout cup displaced to the side, and the coin slots are different. Presumably this was all done after it was imported and converted to French coinage. It's possible a French collector had a spare Bussoz pediment and thought it looked good atop this game. :!?!:

From 'Arcadia'
From 'Arcadia'

The pediment on the eBay example looks modern to my eyes. Is the relief carved or a machine-made moulding glued to a backing? I don't think it's typical of any wall machine pediment I've seen, and I'm sure it doesn't belong on this one. It was probably added because the Iris resembles the French roulettes which usually did sport pediments. Of course, it wouldn't be a problem to remove it.
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Re: Pin Up and Iris Wall machine

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Ah I see what you mean. Thanks Mr.PM.
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