Streets Wheel Em In identified

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Hi,
I am from Luxembourg, collector and drive a German forum for old slots
https://www.antik-automaten.de/wbb2/
since one month.

Now I am just searching for a UK slot machine that I always remember from
some student time in London and in one play-hall situated at Piccadilly Circus.

Perhaps one of you know more about this and perhaps even some pictures still
exist. It was in the late 60ties, so about 40 years ago.

The machine was about 2 m large, with a large white ribbon over all the length
and this ribbon was covered with black strips of different wide.
The ribbon rotated constantly to the back part of the machine and it was in front
place for, if I remember, 4 players.

The game consisted to throw 10 pence in your allocated playing area and to try
that a coin stay lying on the black part, without debording on the white.

Depending of the fact, that the black strip was small or large, the payout in a shell
in front near you was high or low. There was a lot of people playing on this.

Perhaps somebody remember or have photos.

Greetings to UK,

Armand.
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Hi .. welcome.

I've just visited your site, it looks great, well done!

The machine you describe sounds very much like the mechanical version of a fairground game I remember as a child. I have seen this machine and last remember it in an arcade in Matlock Bath Derbyshire. Perhaps some others may have photos.

Good luck

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Found this on Google worldofstock.com
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Hi Armand,

The game you describe was the Wheel 'Em In, by Streets Automatic Machine Co. Ltd. of London. Originally made in 1926 (but I haven't seen versions as early as this), it was very popular in the 1950s and 60s. It was one of my favourites. The one Badpenny just found was made by Whittaker Brothers sometime in the 1970s or 80s. Bromley Inc. of Illinois, USA currently make Wheel M In which pays out in redemption tickets like most modern versions. Part of the fun of the old machines was the way the pennies rolled back along the top of the glass when you won. They were large with complicated mechanisms.

This chap has applied some science to the task of beating the Wheel 'Em In.

Good luck with your new website - I've put a link to it in the Archive and would be grateful if you would do the same.
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Thanks,
You are great! It was exactly Wheel 'Em In, by Streets Automatic Machine Co. Ltd.
Because I forgot that the pennies on payout rolled down over the glass, and it was exactly the machine from the picture. I was thinking first that there was more gambling places, but now I feel that they put 2 machines side by side. And playing was with 2 pence. It was noisy as hell and joined to this the sound when the pennies glides down over the glass, fascinating. Very interesting to find out how this machine was functioning, and opposite to all slot machines, the coins were pay out at a higher level as where they fall inside. A lot of mystery still inside the box.

Thanks also for the link, I already put yours longer time. If I have little more about the mechanics I will translate some things in German.

Greetings,

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And there is one of these Streets Wheel Em Ins still in use where I live in an arcade in Pagham, near Bognor Regis, West Sussex, England working on the new 2p coin. Pagham arcade is tiny, near the seafront, been there for 40 years. If you didnt know it was there you would miss it. They also have a roulette type game called Colourama (the guy had put signs on them telling you their age, this is one of 4 left in the country) where you bet on red, green, blue, white and yellow with a big rubber ball that spins around. You win 2, 4, 6 or 10 depending on your bet. When you go in the door you are met by 6 Bally bandits with gold awards, to exchange for prizes. If you are down on the South coast, worth checking out for a bit of nostagia.
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I well remember these machines as a lad, it was as much fun trying to catch your wining pennies as they rolled down the glass, as it was actually playing the game.

Interesting site Armand.
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Crazy to hear that this machine and a few other goodies always in use in Pagham.
I am here in Luxembourg a little far away, but could be really interesting to jump there with digicam. Perhaps the owner will allow to show the intestines of his treasures. And this owners also have sometimes the old maintenance books. Alibaba. :roll:

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Yes, some video of one working would be good. Hint to malcymal.
They're so rare now - I wonder if a single example on the old penny still exists. They've gone the way of most large electro-mechanicals - to the scrap yard. Maybe they just wore out eventually - as you can imagine, the coin-conveyor mechanism to raise the winnings was quite something. Paul Mitchel described how as a lad he cheated the game by attaching cotton to the coins to guide them into place: The Artful Dodgers (Arena). He later got a job in the arcade and discovered what damage this had done to the innards of the Wheel 'Em In.

Everything looks bigger when you're little, but I also seem to recall versions with four or more stations. Maybe Streets sold them by the yard.

Anyone remember these large multi-players?
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Hey that's a good idea - give me some time and I will get down there and film these machines for you. I remember when I was 16, that's 26 years ago going down there on my Vespa scooter, and regularly being banned for using reel strips to aid my winnings on the modern machines when they nudged. I'm on speaking terms with the son and I'm sure he will not mind! I will say its an advertisement for the arcade. Incidentally, these old arcades are suffering now due to the gambling laws, having to shield certain machines from public view, more expense and having competition from holiday camps with huge arcades. Its a shame.

I shall take my Fuji digi down there and get some shots. I had great fun on the Streets, I was getting a coin within the line and it didn't pay, I then had a coin slightly on a line and it did. Nothing's changed, they were so erratic when they were in use in the '70s. Coins flying on the floor too.... magical.
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Hi Guys,

I just found a flyer about the original machine in the States!?!? If it arrive, I will put a scan also in here. Still missing some technical description. This could really be a great candidate for some replica.

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Hey ... well done, look forward to it!

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Hello all, :D This is an American version of Wheel Em In from 1993. Looks like a close match to the UK model we all remember from the 1960s, but I think :-? it pays out in tickets, not cash? :tarah: slotalot.
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Yes, you're right. This is the new generation "replica" from Bromley. But it's electronic, so the inside is not so much our machine.
When you read this column about former boss of Streets Automatic Machine Co Ltd., this could explicate the remake in the States: Breaks Is Latest Recipient Of Mary Openshaw Award

I found a small video about the Bromley version:



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And here is the flyer, he arrived today from the States in perfect conditions.
I am also on the trace from the former boss of Streets Automatic Machines, Shane Breaks.
He lives in France and perhaps possible to catch some more informations, or best, documents.
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Nice one .... let us know how you get on.
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Great poster. I've copied it to Resources.

Hmmn... 5ft x 6ft 3" x 4ft 9". I think there's room for one of these in the kitchen...
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Great flyer, well done. Basically what they are trying to say is "this machine will fleece your customers in very little time and you will coin it!". Much appreciated, I will try and get down to Pagham and get a video of this machine working which is still in use. The machine is still in operation at the Pagham amusement arcade, West Sussex and was manufactured in 1973 (got a label on it) and in a yellow casing paying 2, 4 or 6 coins flying down the glass. Will try my best, know how amusement arcades are twitchy with cameras.
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Hey Guys,

Always nothing from the inside ?

On my side I found some puzzle parts and put some more informations in my (German) forum.
http://www.antik-automaten.de/wbb2/thre ... 73#post873

I'm Luxembourgish, as you know, but most of my collector friends are in Germany, for this the language issue.

What found I out ?

First, some informations about Streets family in the coin slot magazine from 1982.
Second, that the name before was WIN-A-LOT, but was changed due to doggies. !DOH!
Third, some speculations:
Because even after intense patent research, nothing about Streets brothers and game machines. I think that anyway most part of mechanism was behind and lower as the playing field. I guess that the payout was made with such kind of sliding mechanism, but not with coil, because
you should hear the noise at the payout. Possible alternate could have been a turning disc with holes for the coins, driven by main motor and with some cam wheels and release levels on the same axle. Just speculations. More interesting, I found a Japanese patent, much later (they often made it much later after the
real inventor) that show exactly coin transport between 2 conveyor belts to a higher level.

So, grab your cam, and prove that I am talking bullsheet :***
Seems to me some grammatical error in the preceding :idea:
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Yeah malcymal - put your camcorder where your mouth is. Or just a bit above it. :D
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