Rotolite Help Needed

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Does anyone by any chance know where these 3 wires have come off from, I can't see where they go?
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I can't see anything in the first photo, can you put a circle around it.
I take it the wires on the right are different voltage take offs from the transformer.

What isn't working on the game?
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Red wire coming from the rhd BP.
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Brown wire and red wire.
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Sorry BP
Forgot to say I don't know what's not working as I don't want to fire it up with the wires all not connected
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Gameswat wrote:Red wire coming from the rhd BP.
If you're ever driving at night and the car in front starts to brake when approaching green traffic lights .... don't get annoyed it might be me.
Blue, green, red colour blindness isn't a problem to me.

Looking at the photo ......

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I think I'd be interested in these.

Keith, if the loose wires aren't touching anything (ie isolated/insulated) then I'd fire it up and look for an obvious common problem like "lights" or "low voltage relays".
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I may give it a go but I'm a bit concerned about the loose wire coming from the transformer?
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Wrap all loose wires in insulating tape, those from the transformer are feeds, if they're covered they can't harm you. It should be obvious which parts of the game aren't functioning. As they appear to come from the inside of the transformer they will be from a smaller winding which indicates lower voltage workings like lights or the relays that activate solenoids which in turn connect higher voltage connections.
Remember game starting switches/micro switches are going to be either high voltage if they go straight to motors, yet low voltage if they go to solenoids that in turn activate high voltage components.

Check out those empty connections I saw, are there any like colour wires the other side of the solder?
With the power off does a continuity meter show a path between these open circuits?
For example, if you connect between a lamp holder and one of those vacant solder lumps?
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Check out the roto-pool manual, the wiring is basicly the same, might help ?? viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1699
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Thanks Stuart but me and wiring just don't get along lol

OK I powered it up and all I get is this, main bulb on and 2 on the sides, nothing does anything, also how does this coin switch work?
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Don't think this looks right neither?
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widget2k4 wrote:Thanks Stuart but me and wiring just don't get along lol
I dont want to rain on your parade, but if you know little about electrics you have bought one of the worst machines to start on :!?!:
They were tricky to set up and keep running even when new :dammit: :dammit:
Relay No6 is the coin relay (thats the one in your photo with the bent contacts) those contacts need resetting so that when the top of the relay is pushed down each set of contacts are opening OR closing as they should, relay No6 is made when a coin closes the contact on the coin mech, (looking at your photo this contact is also bent out of shape)
once you have sorted these 2 out you "might" be able to get it to power up when you put a coin in ??? that said relay no.6 looks like it might have a coil wire broken off as well ???
Good Luck, I think you are going to need it. ;-)
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Right getting somewhere now
Cleaned all the contacts soldered on about 10 wires, I swear you just got to look at them and they come off,
Now when you activate the coin switch the bell rings lol
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I'm about to call it a day on this as I can't work it out, last thing though just in case it triggers someone's brain, in the picture I have soldered the red wire into the middle pole and that has now made the coin switch operate the bell, the wire on the front goes to the bell, the white one, also someone has joined another white one to a green wire, any idea or should I scrap the idea of it ever working again?
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I'm guessing this is not right neither and there shouldn't be a chock block here?
The red wire comes from start button and connects to the white which then goes to relay 1,thr dark brown wire comes from the coin switch and connects to the white wire that's joined to the green one in precious photo and also to a resistor from the rectifier, and also a lighter brown wire connects to the other side of the start button,
This is just too complicated lol
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Take the red wire & the short brown wire and solder them to the terminal next to the one with the green wire on relay No.6, the machine should power up when you put a coin in?? :D
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Hi widget2k4
Slotalot is right they are tricky machines ive had one for a couple of years it was working fine.and then the payout started playing up. on further inspection i noticed some of the wires had overheated and burned through the insulation. I then replaced them with new. i used different colours because these were the only ones my local electrical shop had.this may be the case with yours. over the years someone may have changed wires so not original.so your red and or brown wire maybe different to others. Mine doesn't have a bell but i think this should only ring on payouts .after i soldered the new wires in place it was working fine.the chap in the electrical shop told me to spray all the electrics with electrical contact cleaner.and now it doesn't work again :dammit: i will post photos for you of the coin chute soon as i can so you can
See how it should look.ps like yourself i dont understand electronics either
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Thanks mate
It has been messed with a lot and don't hold much hope of getting it working, I've took out a lot of white wires that looked like they had been bypassing things, now all I have working is the big bulb in the door lol
If i had a full wiring diagram for the wires to the relays etc I could probably work it out, stu's diagrams are not helping me haha, I need it in English.
On the plus side the wiring on the top 2 things and the door doesn't look like they been touched
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OK stu I have done that, still nothing but the other wire from the coin switch doesn't go to anything and I now have nothing on 2 of the pins on the right little black block?
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The wires hanging loose are
Dark brown from other side of coin switch
Light brown from start button
The red one in chock block is from start button also
And the 2 from the bell I disconnected as they had one to the resistor and the other to the little black block

Hope some of this makes sense
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