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Re: Win A Crunch

Postby yaksplat » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:07 pm

Thanks for the response! That makes sense on the ball size. The ones in it are far too small and light. Amazon will have a new one to me in 48 hours.

Is there a good way to smooth out the artwork? There is some warping. It's not horrible but would be nice to flatten. Is there normally anything behind the name Marquee? Or just an empty space? There's a divider from the mechanism portion.

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Re: Win A Crunch

Postby coppinpr » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:14 pm

I have the Fry's crunch labels on file, but not the correct size. Although the bar was quite long and wide, it was unusually thin. I'm guessing, but less than a cm. You can pretty much get the length and width from the size of the hole in the slide. Let me know if you need labels.

You can illuminate the top box and it looks good, not actually original but some operators did do it. The backflash can, I believe, be flattened and I think there is a method within the forum somewhere, much the same as correcting warped records with heat I think, but remember you need to remove everything to get at the backflash. You will find it's shrunk and pulled against the pins. Removing it might release a whole new set of problems.
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Re: Win A Crunch

Postby brigham » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:43 am

My Whales 'Easy Perm' backflash is the same. I've learned to live with it; they often turn brittle, and start to crack when you handle them.
It had a MBC lamp holder in the top box, even though the artwork was almost opaque. Probably contributed to the warped top flash.
Nice machines, though. Redcar was one of my childhood haunts, so I met most of these 'in action'.

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Re: Win A Crunch

Postby tammy » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:02 am

Hi, a lovely machine and I have one myself. The original sized crunch bars, as you probably know, are now not available but, Nestles animal bars should work well... they do in mine! It's worth cutting a piece of wood to go on top of the row of bars and put a weight on it - helps the bars drop down easy. I have screwed a hook into my weight block to help lift it out.

The perspex needs to go, as if left in the colours will change on the picture due to sunlight being badly filtered. I had a lot of original colour sweet prints from out of old magazines and framed them to go on the wall. Within 18 months the ones behind glass were still perfect, whereas the colours had all altered on all the ones behind perspex. Photos are the same, as behind perspex they go pink and lose their colours. The best way I find is to take the complete door to a good glass cutting shop - they should sort you out... usually £6 to £7 now. Don't forget to change the front piece of the small top flash too.

I wouldn't try fattening the backflash, as they are back painted and the paint may at the least start falling off. It doesn't look bad at all. I trust you will enjoy the machine. If you have children or relatives' children, you should find that this machine is very popular and something they will always want to go on. Their comment to me each time is first, 'can I go on the machines?', then, 'is there any chocolate bars in it!!!'

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Picture of my weight block I made that helps chocolates fall after each one is vended. Just seen coppinpr's Crunch wrappers... They look good to us on dummy thin wood bars. If you print any out could I be cheeky and ask you to do me a number. If you do, I would gladly send you postages etc.
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Re: Win A Crunch

Postby coppinpr » Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:53 pm

Unless the perspex is stuck in the frame somehow, you should be able to simply lift it out without even removing the door as there is a slot at the top. Glass will be a big improvement. If the top glass is too damaged to keep, I can make you a new one.

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Re: Win A Crunch

Postby yaksplat » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:46 pm

Of course I had nearly the entire thing torn down within about 30 minutes of receiving it. It looks like I'm going to need to trim the backflash around the exit hole as it has shrunken, covering part of the hole.

I may just take the playfield and create a new one from it, leaving the original backflash attached to the original playfield. I could get a new one printed on vinyl and fit perfectly to the new playfield.

I love how easy these are to work on.

As far as the bars go, one of my sons has a horrible nut allergy, so we're limited to very few types of chocolate that aren't manufactured in any factory that uses nuts. What I did find is that if go to Canada, I can buy Kit-Kats that were made in Canada and those are 100% safe for him. I'm just outside Buffalo, NY, so Canada is just 14 miles away. I may make a new payout mechanism to handle the current small size Kit-Kats. I'll have to get out my metal brake and warm up the milling machine. !!YIPPEE!!

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The original colors on the backflash look good.
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Re: Win A Crunch

Postby arrgee » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:41 pm

yaksplat wrote:I may make a new payout mechanism to handle the current small size Kit-Kats
Why not just leave the existing mechanism yaksplat and sleeve the existing guides as in the photo below?

Not very attractive, but it retains the original mechanism and dispenses the Kit-Kat without any hassle.
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Re: Win A Crunch

Postby yaksplat » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:58 pm

The Kit-Kats are too thick. I could cut the mechanism to make them fit, but the slide is too thin as well. Building a new one will be a fun task.

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Side note: These are the balls that came in the machine. They have designs on them. Does this mean anything to anyone?
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Re: Win A Crunch

Postby coppinpr » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:40 pm

There are at least two backflashes available on the forum. This one is, I think, a different colour to yours. I think the blue rimmed one is sharper than my old one and is on the forum.

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Re: Win A Crunch

Postby gameswat » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:52 pm

yaksplat wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:58 pm
Side note: These are the balls that came in the machine. They have designs on them. Does this mean anything to anyone?
Those are Japanese pachinko balls.

As for the backflash, that's a very nice original so not sure why you would want to replace it? A repro is never going to better it. Because the plastic has shrunken over time you need to release the tension where any pins or screws attach through it and are locking those parts in place while other areas can stretch, which then causes the buckling. I just elongate the holes slightly with a Dremel or re-drill new ones in bad cases, just enough to leave a little bit of wiggle room for any further shrinkage. Looks like you have one bad split on the top lhd, which should be easy to fix by releasing that corner piece and bringing the joint back together. The plastic goes well under the side wood spacers giving you a lot to play with. I've sometimes had to use tiny brass nails to hold down cracks like that if they keep wanting to lift up and stop the ball. But I've also used a clear layer of polycarb over the top of badly warped ones to help keep them flat too.


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