The Mystery of Mad Money - Sega or Mills?

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The Mystery of Mad Money - Sega or Mills?

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Help me please. I have an old one arm bandit called Mad Money. The words Mad Money appears to be cast actually on the machine. It looks like a Sega, it plays like a Sega but is it a Sega?

The case does not have the words Sega actually written on it. Most Bizarre!

So the question is, did Sega buy up Mills old stock of cases which appeared identical? Any ideas?

Just another quickee. My machine does not have the usual escalator. I was told that it was a Shefras conversion. When would this have happened and why? Did Sega actually fit Shefras parts and who were Shefras???? Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re The Mystery of Mad Money - Sega or Mills?

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My basic knowledge of slots tells me that Shefras made replacement parts and that the shefras escalator I had in a copper sega was a two play for one shilling .The coin would be retained until the second pull of the handle where the coin would run and fall into the coin tube. The only Mad money machines i have seen have been sega.I take it the machine is of the curved front type with the "bullet proof" glass in front of the reels?. I always thought this style of case was exclusive to Sega then a few years ago I saw one with mills on the front. I have seen hundreds of segas but only one mills so I deduce as with the high top, sega must have copied the design.
Incidently the mad moneys I have seen have had sega cast into the case under the jackpot window.
Hope this helps.
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Re The Mystery of Mad Money - Sega or Mills?

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Thank you. Still puzzled by the missing Sega sign cast in the case. I have taken a photo for further views/discussion.
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Re The Mystery of Mad Money - Sega or Mills?

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I can confirm that
Philip Shefras YOUR 'ONE-STOP' SPARES SUPPLIER
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Re The Mystery of Mad Money - Sega or Mills?

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Here is a scan of the Sega Mad Money flyer.I do have a Sega Mad Money machine but no pictures to hand.
If you post some pics of the mech i'm sure someone will tell you if it's Sega or Mills.
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Re The Mystery of Mad Money - Sega or Mills?

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Here is a pic of my Mad Money it does have a Sega mech and the jackpot was disabled for use in the cafe's.
I expect it was a club machine before.
No Sega logo below the award window!
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Re The Mystery of Mad Money - Sega or Mills?

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Mine looks the same as yours. Bizarre because the stars which are also cast next to the Mad Money sign are also missing. Note this only happens on those missing the Sega sign.

So why?????? Are these Sega copies ?????
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The Sega / Mills link

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The history of of Sega's involvement with Mills, as I understand it came about during the late 50's when the Mills management decided to expand machine production to the rest of the world and took on a friendly deal with Sega to produce the Mills design under license from Mills but Badged Sega. They were given the tooling and full design rights.
But things went pear-shaped when Mills ran into financial difficulties and apparently Sega took over their debts and so effectively liquidated the Mills name.
This explains why Sega internal parts are so similar (and sometimes interchangeable with) Mills internal parts, up to the point where Sega were producing their own designs (Mid/late 60's). The only noticeable difference being the part numbers and the chrome plating.

Most of the parts were probably produced on Mills press tools anyway!
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Very, very informative. Thank you. I will check the mech to see if it has been stamped with a Sega or Mills code.

Does anyone know where Mills or Sega would have stamped their details on the inner part of the case? Does anyone have a photo of a similar shaped Mills machine?
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Does anyone have a photo of a similar shaped Mills machine?

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Does anyone have a photo of a similar shaped Mills machine?
Here you are!
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