Allwin Flash Win Payout - Balls Drop

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Allwin Flash Win Payout - Balls Drop

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Have a Flash Win machine that allows variable payouts (like most Allwins). If you look at the photo lever C is the usual fixture that allows little flaps (A) to be brought in to play so the balls roll over the 1st channel.
However, this machine has a 3rd (B) channel, yet I cannot find anything that can cause the middle ball to be able to roll over channels 1 and 2.
Have I got something missing? Maybe a longer flap? Does anyone have a similar machine they could clue me in with!

Have attached photo of pay channels, and a photo of a similar machine.
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I believe you have answered your own question, see below my Safari with the flap extending for the middle tube 6 coin payout over to the rear channel. Should be easy to make something as long as the microswitches are intact on the side
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Thanks for the picture. Your mech is identical to mine. At least I know what to make now. You are right I have 2 Micro switches missing so off to Maplin for replacements tomorrow!
Thanks for quick reply TF
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Hello to you both! I just picked up an Allwin Flash Win here in the states. It's in pretty bad shape and I'm suspecting it's missing a lot of mechanical parts. I know the micro switches are gone, but I'm not sure what else. Might either of you still be around and willing to assist with some pictures? And perhas some advise? Thank you SO much!
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Fire away. We are here to help :cool:
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Thank you! Well, I just picked up an Allwin FlashWin. It's in rather bad condition, missing I believe a large number of parts. I'd like to get it working and restore it to the best of my abilities. I'm mostly a pinball collector (both EM and SS) with a few other vintage arcade games. Hopefully I'm not in over my head on this one. I'm not even sure where to begin here. So many questions it's a bit overwhelming :burp:

First I guess, any info on what exactly this is?...who made it, where & when? Is there any documentation in existence that might be available?

From what little info I've been able to find, I know that having the electric payout is a bit unusual. Not quite sure how to eventually get it to operate as it's set up for 230v, and here across the pond we're 115v. This is probably the least of my worries, that I think I can work out...and is probably the last thing I need to be concerned with.

Best I can tell, there's many parts missing. I know the three electrical switches for the payout are missing, I have no idea what else. Are replacement available? Are there pictures of a complete working model anywhere? This would help me in rebuilding it.

The glass is in miserable condition, but I shouldn't have a problem creating a reproduction.

The acetate backflash is in terrible condition. A couple of large holes, cracks and very wrinkled. Shouldn't be too technical to replace, just a bit of time. Best I can tell from searching through this forum, it's 250 microns thick acetate? Any idea on a source for this (I should be able to track it down).

The image behind the acetate... there's a hole through it at the hammer. I should be able to remove it, scan it, redraw it in photoshop to recreate. Any opinions or advise for this?

The mechanical aspect. Here's where I'm the most lost. I finally figured out why I can't active anything with a penny. A US penney is, I believe, quite a bit different in size that a British penny (US penny is 19mm in diameter). I should be able to come up with the correct coins...might even have a few here already. The rest though, I have no idea what's missing and where I might be able to find the parts.

Lastly would be the wood cabinet. Refinishing it isn't a problem, but it would be helpful to know, with what product(s), so I can match as close as possible to the original.

Thank you SO much for any assistance. Hopefully, my pictures post below.
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Well welcome,

See below link for your reading on the manufacturer of these machines, many posts because clarity on who made them has always been unclear.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2633

The electric and mechanical versions. Yours looks very original and, at first glance, complete. For some reason the pictures you have posted are not appearing well, but I will take some picture of my electric version shortly for you to compare.

The backflash only has a plastic cover over the paper/card artwork. So in theory you can replace this if an issue. There are threads on this site advising how to take apart.

There are no guides on this machine and the site will be a good reference.

Coin wise, the US 50c is similar to the old British penny, so worth trying this.

In terms of other points like refinishing the case, I will let people who know more than me advise, but I believe these had a light varnish finish based on mine, rather than waxed or polished, but suspect your preference will be the key here.
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Agreed on my pictures not posting well. Can you advise on the proper way to post them? I created an album on this site and tried various ways of displaying them.

A US 50c is 30.6 mm in diameter (US 25c is 24.26 mm and seem to be too small as it falls out of the side of the coin shoot). I believe the diameter of a British penny is 20.3 mm (although this may be from the wrong era as it's smaller than a US 25c).

I'm quite certain that at the least it's missing the electrical switches that control the payout. I also believe there were some "trays" that would direct the ball into the proper channel for the proper amount of payout (I only have one of these trays...though that should be enough to get it working).

Might take me a bit to get through the 9 pages of the post you link to. THANK YOU!
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I think it's also missing the "payout slides".
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British old penny is 30mm similar to 50c

See below pictures from my machine. You look to have the slide which should cover 2 coins. It repeats itself to pay up to three times from the solenoid based on the microswitches, which should protrude through the side of the ball chute. Simple in its working and you should be able to buy three replacements from a good store.
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