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Riviera Cashcendo advice

Postby ls14garlo » Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:32 am

Just a quick question to satisfy my curiosity.... What's the tube for on the inside of the door for? It seems to have an electric supply to it but also looks like a coin tube. Is it for a bonus payout or something? !PUZZLED!

I'm sure there will be plenty more questions when I actually start to clean it up (and the Cop-a-lot) once I've finished messing with the Bonanza Star!! Here's what I mean....
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Re: Riviera Cashcendo advice

Postby coppinpr » Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:51 am

It's a hand filled token or jackpot payout system. On your machine it's to pay the £1 jackpot as the slides can't handle £1 in 2p's. Usually (but not always) the electrical connection is made by the normal vertical payout fingers closing a switch when they go through the payout discs on the reels. If you look at the top of the mech, from the rear, on the left you should see the row of fingers. One will have a switch added if the connection is made through the fingers.

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Re: Riviera Cashcendo advice

Postby ls14garlo » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:29 am

Thanks Coppinpr... Is there a way to know if it's working or not...? I don't do electricity ( yer can't see it = danger ha ha) Thanks though - again!! !THUMBS!

!SAINT!..... And I don't want to start on the other two until I'm happy with the Bonanza Star, I don't wanna push it with better half! :tut

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Re: Riviera Cashcendo advice

Postby badpenny » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:48 pm

Plug it in and force a jackpot payout.

If you don't know how to stop the clock and do that you may find a lot of useful information here ......
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Re: Riviera Cashcendo advice

Postby ls14garlo » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:12 pm

Thanks Bp, I'll give it a go tomorrow...

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Re: Riviera Cashcendo advice

Postby ls14garlo » Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:05 am

I forced a jackpot but no joy dirtdog so the problem must lie with the switch or maybe the solenoid that fires it?

It's no secret that I'm not one to mess with electrics so it'll have to stay not working !PUZZLED!. I did check out the wiring and it's all complete and in very good condition.

Up at the top, behind the coin entry, is a short earth wire that's broken but it appears to connect to the lighting control unit and all that works fine, so I don't think that's anything to do with it.
I can't see any other damaged wiring so, for what it's worth, I think I'll have to leave it and just clean it and polish it up. The jackpot will only be very rare anyway so it's probably not a biggie..... I haven't yet had a minor win on it anyway ha ha!!

Could it have been manipulated to not win hardly?? For all the messing about I've done in the last couple of weeks, I'm still a noob and I thought that being mechanical it couldn't be fixed?

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Re: Riviera Cashcendo advice

Postby aristomatic » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:22 am

ls14garlo wrote:I haven't yet had a minor win on it anyway ha ha!!
I' m not sure whether this was in jest or serious but if you haven't had a minor win then that would tend to suggest that you have a problem generally with wins. Firstly, confirm if the machine is paying out on any wins.

It may be better to post some pictures of the mechanism in and out of the cabinet. In general, Rivieras, if they have have an added handload payout, would have had a mechanical handload tube fitted to the slide stack to drop additional 3 or 4 20p's in addition to the either 20p or 40p, the minor awards paid out to take the jackpot payout up to £1 from either 20p or 40p from the normal slide pay.

If you do take the pictures, just take care because this machine has an electrical solenoid payout on the door, rather than the usual mechanical option on the slidestack. The mechanism may have a wire connector attached to the non handle side that needs to be unclipped, prior to
sliding the mechanism forward to release it from the cabinet as done normally.

I think it's better you confirm that minor awards pay out normally before working to resolve the handload jackpot issue, but those pictures will help greatly I'm sure.

I'm surprised you haven't bought any other machines in the last 24 hours.

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Re: Riviera Cashcendo advice

Postby badpenny » Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:12 am

As "aristomatc" says, trying all of the payouts now seems necessary.
Get the earth wire connected! We don't like losing new members so quickly.

When you say you've played it a bit but haven't had a minor win yet - does that mean you haven't had a winning line yet or that it just doesn't pay out, even when it should?

There should be a multi pin plug and socket - one fitted to the frame of the mechanism and one attached to the case. This connects the JP solenoid to the micro switch. Thus a JP winning line on the mech tells the solenoid to deliver the winnings. Do they exist? Are they connected?

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Re: Riviera Cashcendo advice

Postby ls14garlo » Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:35 am

I've detached the plug to remove the reel mech, I meant I haven't had any winning lines yet(after dozens of plays) so I can't say if it pays out at all. The mechanism is now on the garage floor- are there any specific areas to get photos of?
Apart from the multi-pin plug I disconnected to remove the mech. and the area it's connected to at the back of the case there aren't any more multi-pin plugs that I can see.

The jackpot tube seems to be half open,do you think the earth will stop it operating,if that is what it's for,there is still a longer earth wire connected fine,they are both in the upper right of the inside of the case if that's any help?
I'll put some pictures on when I know if there's any specific ones to take of the reel mech.
I've currently got it in bits at the moment so I can start polishing up the chrome and clean the glasses/plastics...Thanks!!

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Re: Riviera Cashcendo advice

Postby ls14garlo » Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:25 pm

The first photo is the rogue earth wire,it has snapped at the connector,I found it ( the connector) nestled among the years of dirt at the bottom of the case,I've now just re-earthed the wire to a nearby bolt..
In the second photo I took the cover off the electrics and noticed the black 5 amp fuse,is that for the jackpot at all because it's blown,photo 3 is a close up of it..
I've forced any random win( by stopping the governor fan) and nothing pays out !PUZZLED!
I hope this isn't going to turn into something nasty, I've looked through older posts for similar problems and I'm thinking it could be the timing,fingers crossed it isn't? :#:
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