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Re: Advice and help

Postby yooser27 » Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:53 pm

Hello,
Thank you very much for your time and help with my problems. I have spent quite a long time operating the machine watching each part move and how it interacts with other levers.
There are a number of parts which appear to be not used and for some reason are not connected! I know you mentioned that perhaps in the dim and distant past it had been modified.
I have attached a photo to show the payout levers which appear to have been modified. There really is so much to learn, it reminded me of when I first got a Japanese Pachinko mechanical machine working.
All the best from Neale.
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Re: Advice and help

Postby coppinpr » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:10 am

You say parts don't seem to be used, so we need to know which parts. The photo you show may or may not show modified parts. What it MIGHT show is that some horizontal fingers are missing.
Bottom line is the machine only does three things, accept a coin correctly, cycle a game and pay out on a winner.
So what does it do or not do?

1. We are pretty sure it will not accept a coin correctly because part of the coin accepter is missing and this may mean it's been modified to free play and not require a coin. Is this the case? Will it simply run when you pull the handle? If so, then we can leave that side alone till the rest is working correctly.
2. Does the machine cycle correctly when the handle is pulled? Do all three reels spin and settle one after another with a sharp stop?
3. Does the machine pay any winners at all on a winning line?

Once we know the answers to these questions we can move to the individual problems.

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Re: Advice and help

Postby badpenny » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:51 pm

coppinpr wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:10 am
You say parts don't seem to be used, so we need to know which parts. The photo you show may or may not show modified parts. What it MIGHT show is that some horizontal fingers are missing.
I disagree - it also shows that the vertical fingers governing the higher payouts have been shortened.

BP :cool:

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Re: Advice and help

Postby coppinpr » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:16 pm

You're right of course, I didn't take note of the two to the left. I was thinking more about if some horizontal fingers had been removed. Now BP has taken an interest things will move quicker. !THUMBS!

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Re: Advice and help

Postby badpenny » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:28 pm

You must be joking Paul!
All I can speed up is concern and desperation amongst those within a diameter of 50 feet.
Regardless of where I'm standing.

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Re: Advice and help

Postby yooser27 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:50 pm

Hello, I have been checking the items as you've suggested:
Item 1, Yes, when the handle is pulled the reels spin without needing a coin to be used.
Item 2, Yes, the reels spin and stop sharply from the left to the right.
Item 3, Yes, on 3 bars the bottom 2 horizontal levers moved out and paid 2p.
For 3 plums, the left-hand vertical lever moved inwards but the horizontal lever didn't move, no payout.
For left and middle cherries the right-hand vertical lever moved inwards and the bottom horizontal levers moved out with 2p paid.

The attached photo of the reels shows that on the left-hand reel a 'patch' of a lemon has been added and the two other reels have had patches of oranges added.

The other photo shows the green shaded lever which when pushed in gives a 6p payout as it pushes out all the horizontal levers, but isn't connected to anything!
Thanks again,
Regards from Neale.
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Sega reels 01.jpg

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Re: Advice and help

Postby radiochrissie » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:26 pm

The Sega has been butchered by someone. You're trying to understand its workings but parts are missing, including payout slides and levers modified. I am not far from you in Crosby; I could show you a (complete) working mech and explain its operation. I think it’s far easier to understand the operation when you see a working mech.

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Re: Advice and help

Postby yooser27 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:31 pm

Hello,
Thank you for your kind offer. I'd like to accept your offer of seeing a correct mechanism working, as you say mine has been butchered. I did wonder why the levers had been modified quite crudely and also it appeared that some of the horizontal sides were missing etc. I assume it was done by the arcade or fairground people so it didn't pay out the higher payouts!
It may well be (as suggested) cheaper and easier to buy a complete bandit, but firstly my main aim is to understand how they work and then go by the advice I have received on this excellent site.
Regards from Neale.

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Re: Advice and help

Postby radiochrissie » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:12 pm

Pm sent to you Neale.

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Re: Advice and help

Postby yooser27 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:06 pm

Hello radiochrissie,
I can't find your PM to me, unless I'm looking in the wrong place! I've tried to send one to you.
Regards from Neale.


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