Deci King reel spin?

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ronnie63
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Deci King reel spin?

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I have this deci king and the reels fail to spin! The clock is running ( they usually seize up) Can't see anything obvious, anyone point me to pontential problem please?

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Re: Deci King reel spin?

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Was it like this when you got it? What did the previous owner fiddle with?
Has it suddenly started doing this? What did you last fiddle with?
Take it out of the case
Place a duster in the clock vane so it won't spin down.
Fire it up
Are the vertical fingers held clear back from the discs?
If not, first check the Dog and Anvil adjustment (https://www.pennymachines.co.uk/Forum/s ... +and+Anvil)
Report back please. So we know how ineffective we are.

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Thanks for the reply.

Like this when I got it! It has stood for some time, I noticed the clock pushes an arm that keeps the pins out of the prize discs, this arem was seized on the pivot! I have freed that but still no spin!

I can't see any signs of tinkering other than very stretched springs on the side of the live jackpot. Also the coin slide is not right, the pin that pops through is stuck back so no coin is needed! Maybe this is all down to lubrication? There is no rust etc involved I was surprized the clock was running as most I have had needed stripped cleaned etc.

I did hold the clock back with the mech on the bench but still no spin! But I can with my hands they seem free enough?

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Sounds like it needs a strip down, degrease and two coats of looking at.
Once you know the essentials are present and correct then you can start interrogating individual parts like the kicker and essential springs.

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Re: Deci King reel spin?

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Thanks, what I think is the kicker arm (thick shaft running along back of mech?) is slow to return, I have to push it back down before it pulls the arm away from the pay discs at the back? Good thing is I have identical fully working mech to compare.

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No that's not the kicker.
The kicker sits underneath the pay out discs. Just to the right of the pay out tube (looking from the front) As you pull the handle it rolls under the discs and as the mech fires it spins back having engaged with the discs. That makes the reels spin.

If the axle at the back is slow to move, that's not good and reinforces the need to pull it all down and degrease.
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Ah, thanks again, never had this problem before! I will remove that arm to de grease and look at the kicker, it clearly not spinning the reels!

I had planned to use sewing machine oil that I use on jukeboxes but looks like grease was used, is that the thing I should use?

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No Ronnie, not grease, not never, not no how !!!!!

Grease attracts dirt and dust then dries out, leaving it with all the lubrication qualities of Velcro.
Sewing machine oil is perfect apart from the need to dilute it with orange juice and vodka if planning to drink it in large quantities.
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This question and an age old topic with varying views. I used to ride motorbikes a lot and still do, just for less miles.....most bikers seem to use sticky grease/oil products......horrible stuff and use flick everywhere and always used WD40 :shock: done 100,000+ miles only using this, even all around Europe... Main reason was it cleaned the chain, lubricated and also gave me low wear. I used to get over 20,000 on a chain. Key was, wipe down chain with a rag and reapply every trip. Everyone does things slightly differently....

Google grease v oil or search this site and people will argue this topic for ever. What is certain is most operators used oodles of grease on bandits as it is a lot more reliable for a heavily used machine on high impact or wear parts. It may be messy and if left lying long enough (like 10 years plus) it will turn hard. Biggest problem in using light oil like 3 in 1 is that it is too thin and will dry out on key parts (like my motorcycle experience I used daily). I have stripped and rebuilt bandits, left for a year or two and have to do again and dry as a bone.....

I use both methods, kickers arms I always use grease as the operators did and they are high wear and impact parts, whereas on the kicker bearing light oil. Some parts like clocks and parts that have oil holes obviously designed for light oil.

I also apply very thin grease coating over parts liable to corrode for added protection

I would never say never use grease ;-)
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Re: Deci King reel spin?

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..... well that's all very well, however when it comes to grease no matter how much you dilute it with orange juice and vodka it is quite unpalatable. !!CHEERS!!
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