Moneytree One Armed Bandit
Re: Bally Money Tree
video of issue:
Pics of arm that needs to engage and spin reel deck?
Can anyone help please?
Pics of arm that needs to engage and spin reel deck?
Can anyone help please?
Re: Bally Money Tree
I have one at home. I can't remember offhand what actually winds the reel mech. on a Bally, but I'll try and get a look when I get in.
You say the mech. operates outside of the cabinet? Well, that sounds promising. It's just a 'missing link' somewhere.
My first thought was that you weren't getting the mech. into the cabinet properly, but on a Bally, that's virtually impossible.
I should know more by tomorrow.
You say the mech. operates outside of the cabinet? Well, that sounds promising. It's just a 'missing link' somewhere.
My first thought was that you weren't getting the mech. into the cabinet properly, but on a Bally, that's virtually impossible.
I should know more by tomorrow.
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Re: Bally Money Tree
The handle solenoid needs to pull down after you insert a coin. Check the solenoid operates when you insert a coin.
If the solenoid operates correctly then your problem lies within the handle mech. Tthese can become seized with hardened grease.
If the solenoid operates correctly then your problem lies within the handle mech. Tthese can become seized with hardened grease.
Re: Bally Money Tree
The handle moves at the front of the machine. It's just the flat lever at the back of the machine, that pushes the reel deck and sets it spinning, isn't moving?
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Re: Bally Money Tree
Yes ....
but you can't pull the arm all the way down or it gets stuck, as the back paddle isn't moving the thing you push down on manually (when deck is out the machine) to send the reels spinning.
but you can't pull the arm all the way down or it gets stuck, as the back paddle isn't moving the thing you push down on manually (when deck is out the machine) to send the reels spinning.
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Re: Bally Money Tree
Then your problem almost certainly lies within the handle mech. You have to remove it and clean it.
Re: Bally Money Tree
Thing is... I don't know how to and how do I know it's complete and nothing is missing or broke?
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Re: Bally Money Tree
You won't know if there is anything missing or broke till you look inside. Remember, this was assembled in the first place so you must be able to dismantle it.
From what I can see it's bolted on to the side of the case. If so, remove the nuts and see if it comes off. You will then see if it's bunged up with old grease. It will need cleaning anyway, so taking it off can't hurt. Once it's off see if it works by hand and report back.
From what I can see it's bolted on to the side of the case. If so, remove the nuts and see if it comes off. You will then see if it's bunged up with old grease. It will need cleaning anyway, so taking it off can't hurt. Once it's off see if it works by hand and report back.
Re: Bally Money Tree
Update:
The paddle at the rear of the deck, that's meant to spring up and load the reel deck to spin, does raise a little, but it has little spring and doesn't seem to lock into position like my other Ballys. So a spring or something inside the handle mechanism is either stretched or come off, or something is out of line.
Can anyone advise please, as taking the arm assembly apart is worrying to me, as it's a lot of springs and cogs that all must go back.
Does anyone have shots of a naked arm assembly box, without the piece of metal shielding everything please?
The paddle at the rear of the deck, that's meant to spring up and load the reel deck to spin, does raise a little, but it has little spring and doesn't seem to lock into position like my other Ballys. So a spring or something inside the handle mechanism is either stretched or come off, or something is out of line.
Can anyone advise please, as taking the arm assembly apart is worrying to me, as it's a lot of springs and cogs that all must go back.
Does anyone have shots of a naked arm assembly box, without the piece of metal shielding everything please?
Re: Bally Money Tree
I've dug mine out from among the junk, and I can't find the keys!
Meantime, you could try the mech. in a known cabinet, and a known mech. into the defective one. That would pin the fault down to arm or mech.
These Bally machines are well constructed, and straightforward to work on. As long as you take note of where everything goes, you should have no problems working on it.
I'll keep looking.
Meantime, you could try the mech. in a known cabinet, and a known mech. into the defective one. That would pin the fault down to arm or mech.
These Bally machines are well constructed, and straightforward to work on. As long as you take note of where everything goes, you should have no problems working on it.
I'll keep looking.
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Re: Bally Money Tree
Yeah, it’s a bit of a pig to get this off as you have to remove the arm and also the machine bottom rail before you can get to all the nuts to release the handle mech.
Take loads of pics and take your time, you will get there.
Take loads of pics and take your time, you will get there.
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Re: Bally Money Tree
Take the unit off if you can. As said above, take loads of photos as you go. Don't worry about cogs and springs falling out - they won't unless they are broken, in which case you need to get in there anyway. My guess is unless you remove the unit and check and clean it you won't get it working anyway so nothing to lose. These are very well made and pretty much always fixable. We will help if you get stuck, it's what we do on this forum.
Re: Bally Money Tree
Update: after locating a loose spring and working out this is what gives the paddle at the rear the tension and spring, I've spent a hour or so in the cold f ing and blinding... only to have a eureka moment and go look at one of my other Ballys haha - only to find out I've wasted a few days on this as I now realise that this machine has been f**ked about by the previous owner and I have some arms missing from inside the handle mech...
So I am in need of some parts for it else I can't progress...
I should have said it's a recent purchase and the history was/is unknown, in case the advice was based on it being played and just packed in....
Those familiar with Ballys will know the spring I've been playing with. It's round in the centre and is cir-clipped onto a shaft and has opposite hooked ends. One hooks round one horizontal arm, and the other side hooks round a vertical arm.
However..... I am missing the vertical arm from the assembly, and it looks like the black bit of metal on the bottom of the assembly that's like 2 pronged. One of the prongs has been snapped off, so I need one of them too. Gutted...
I will get some pics as I've probably explained it how none can picture it.
Least I guess we are getting somewhere ..... ....
So I am in need of some parts for it else I can't progress...
I should have said it's a recent purchase and the history was/is unknown, in case the advice was based on it being played and just packed in....
Those familiar with Ballys will know the spring I've been playing with. It's round in the centre and is cir-clipped onto a shaft and has opposite hooked ends. One hooks round one horizontal arm, and the other side hooks round a vertical arm.
However..... I am missing the vertical arm from the assembly, and it looks like the black bit of metal on the bottom of the assembly that's like 2 pronged. One of the prongs has been snapped off, so I need one of them too. Gutted...
I will get some pics as I've probably explained it how none can picture it.
Least I guess we are getting somewhere ..... ....
Re: Bally Money Tree
Does anyone have an exploded diagram of the Money Tree / Bally handle assembly please?
It might be easier for me then to point out what I need.
please...
It might be easier for me then to point out what I need.
please...
Re: Bally Money Tree
I've attempted to draw freehand what I need. Hoping someone familiar with the machines or who has a schematic can decipher what I need. The paddle I refer to is the fat end towards the back of the machine that should snap up and release the pull arm back to the start.
Re: Bally Money Tree
Item 35 possibly, and / or items 55, 54, 53. Hopefully someone has them and can help me?
Re: Bally Money Tree
Are you sure the mech is sitting correctly in the case? I don't remember any adjustments on these, so perhaps the mech is sat on top of the base, rather than slid into the grooved slot, or the locking handles have not fully engaged to pull the mech tight into the case, or something behind the mech is stopping it going fully back.
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