Aristocrat Clubman & Clubmaster

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Re: Aristocrat Clubman & Clubmaster

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You can buy the newer squared body versions brand new with two keys for $20 on Aust eBay.https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LOCKWOOD-CA ... SwVtZZ6cD4
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I’ll have 6 :lol:

Couldn’t find these on current lock product list and maybe new old stock judging by packaging.....if only shipping wasn’t so high would have been tempted.
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!!!!!! wrote:Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:17 am Haven't been on the forum for sometime and I remember from a year or so ago and also this post of yours about a rule not to discuss Aussie machines?
Just to clarify again - I've no objection to Australian bandits (or any other kind) being discussed on the Forum. Nor do the moderators as far as I know. I don't know where this idea came from. On the contrary, I've spent hours researching the subject and am always grateful for new snippets of information. As far as I know, no posts were redacted. I can't think why they would be.

If someone asks a question that's been asked before, they may be directed to an answer, or I might merge the post with an answer, but repeat questions are to be expected. Far from being a problem, they often tease out new information.

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Confused.com !PUZZLED! I think you need to re-read posts and PM’s
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Re-read, but enlightenment remains unattainable. No matter.
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Thanks Guys.

The Starlite was in fair to poor shape and the stand, thought id never find one, was in very bad shape. Happy with the end result, just need to find someone to print the 2 Shilling sticker, original is like a foil type material.

Thanks Gameswat, bought two locks today. And the middle hole has been drilled but ill find a fix, rather have the proper lock.
ill post some photos when complete.

Look forward to someone helping with the handle return.

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Early Aristocrat

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Topic moved & merged - Site Admin.

This has just come up on Facebook. Not seen one before. Any info?
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Already talking to the guy as you may have seen......good to see one at last.

Hopefully he will post some more pictures.........somehow I cannot see me being able to persuade him to sell it to me :#: Not that I have tried, but would love to own this baby....even if a bit distressed.
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bill gates wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:01 am Any info?
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Interesting stuff. Thanks. !SMARTY!
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Is this machine in UK or Oz? Anyone know please?
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Andy,

The owner is in Aus. Trying to get him to join the forum. He has already stripped the machine and doing a rebuild. Hope he does join, as it would be good to see progress. Was a family owned piece. Great to see one. !!THUMBSX2!!
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Excellent TF, thanks.

Yes, lets hope the owner joins us - and lives in Melbourne!!!!

I'd be delighted to meet and view the machine. He/she can see my last seven as well. Reckon I'd swap my War Eagle, Mystery Golden, Governor or Ball Gum Vendor for their Aristo.

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drphat wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:21 pm Thank you very much Treefrog!

The handle mech design is different, see my pic, mine seems to have an extra few linkages plus the device hanging from the top of the cabinet.


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Appreciate the lock pics as that has cleared it up. This has barrel (cam) locks but do not lock onto anything. And I couldn't work out why there were two lugs either side!

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If I can't get them here, I would really appreciate the link to buy in the UK.

Thank you so much, and the last pic is my version of your Starlite!!
Andy, who responded on the Aristocrat machine, discovered and is also from Melbourne, may have seen this handle arrangement before. I am fairly certain. as mentioned, it looks like there should be a pump attached to the part at the top and a rod from it would go through the square connector on the end of the handle assembly. Never seen this type on an Aristocrat before. In fact the guy who has the earlier made “Aristocrat” machine on this thread shared some pictures of his cabinet which is the same simple setup as most Clubmasters.

I do wonder why Aristocrat moved to a more complex cabinet setup compared to the earlier machines.
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Re: Aristocrat Clubman & Clubmaster

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Thanks TF,

I'm going to try a couple of different springs to see if they work first. I have to wait till the handle and other parts come back from the electroplater. I believe, through research here and other sites, it's an early model Clubmaster as it has the webbing - individual reel windows? Could be wrong, and the serial number is xxx.
My Starlite which is circa 1961 has a very simple spring return setup.
The pic below is how I bought the Clubmaster, but has already been stripped and painting started.
Maybe Andy can throw some more light on the handle return?

Nice Aristocrat find on facebook too, would love to see in person!
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The picture I showed of my machine also has the reel posts, also the cabinet above is an earlier model machine, so not sure this is likely the reason. Your handle assembly is totally different with different numbers. If associated with a pump, it may be a later addition possibly... As I say, Aristocrat fitted these from the early '60s onwards, same as Nutt and Muddle.... Maybe someone will pipe up if they know... One option in the short term is to remove the additional linkage parts for now and see if you can attach a return spring. To be honest the spring's not critical as the mech will push the handle up anyway.
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Afraid I can't shed any light on the handle return pump/no pump question as haven't ever seen a Clubman, Clubmaster or Aristocrat in the flesh.

As for the Aristocrat owner up-thread, if you see this please PM me.
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Would anyone be interested in pics of this restore and if there is any interest, do I post them here or start another thread?

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Post away, if the mods want to move to a new chain I am sure they will do this. Searched through my Aristocrat documents and could not find the hub assembly of your machine. The later Nevada setup which started in 1963 had a damper linked in at the same place to the top of the cabinet, but the linkage is very different....
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drphat wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:19 am ...do I post them here or start another thread?
If it's the Starlite, best to start a new topic, so we keep this one on Clubman & Clubmaster. !THUMBS!
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