One handled Bajazzo
One handled Bajazzo
Hi all!
Just got the Bajazzo Clown game and supposed to restore it, but it seems that some parts are missing.
Tried to search from here, but the inside is different.
I found one "brass bar" from inside, but not sure does it belong to the game?
Can somebody help?
Some pics attached...
Just got the Bajazzo Clown game and supposed to restore it, but it seems that some parts are missing.
Tried to search from here, but the inside is different.
I found one "brass bar" from inside, but not sure does it belong to the game?
Can somebody help?
Some pics attached...
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Re: Bajazzo Clown game
Hi eddie and welcome on board.
The outside condition of your machine looks nice. Sadly, there is clearly a chunk inside that is missing.
You can see in the middle photo the shadow where mainly the payout part of the mech. would have sat.
Compare to the detail shown in this similar machine...
https://www.thevintagescrewcompany.com/ ... red-02.jpg
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The outside condition of your machine looks nice. Sadly, there is clearly a chunk inside that is missing.
You can see in the middle photo the shadow where mainly the payout part of the mech. would have sat.
Compare to the detail shown in this similar machine...
https://www.thevintagescrewcompany.com/ ... red-02.jpg
Using the Search facility (top right of this page) shows there are currently 167 posts on Clown Catchers, should you fancy a trawl.
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Re: Bajazzo Clown game
An interesting non-standard clown figure. It looks like he's been hitting the donuts too hard.
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Re: Bajazzo Clown game
eddie.
I think your Bajazzo was made by Giese & Co. Automatenfabrik, Berlin and has a patented mechanism quite different from that of the more common Jentzsch & Meerz Clown (as depicted above by BP). It employs a single player-control knob to lift the ball into play and manipulate the clown figure.
The gravity feed payout accounts for the lack of the internal mechanism mentioned by BP. There may be parts missing, but not much, I suspect. Finding the 1926 ball lift patent might help answer that.
Most of this knowledge came from Forum member paulbolmann's reply to my query here.
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Incomplete mechanism
I think your Bajazzo was made by Giese & Co. Automatenfabrik, Berlin and has a patented mechanism quite different from that of the more common Jentzsch & Meerz Clown (as depicted above by BP). It employs a single player-control knob to lift the ball into play and manipulate the clown figure.
The gravity feed payout accounts for the lack of the internal mechanism mentioned by BP. There may be parts missing, but not much, I suspect. Finding the 1926 ball lift patent might help answer that.
Most of this knowledge came from Forum member paulbolmann's reply to my query here.
Examples:
Incomplete mechanism
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Re: Bajazzo Clown game
Even better, our German friend cleantex has posted details of the patent, original patent model, and associated adverts over at antique-automaten.de
With Friedrich Giese's full name, I was able to track down these patents:
DE840217, 1952 (incorrect date, according to cleantex)
DE472272, 1929
All we need now is Eddie...
With Friedrich Giese's full name, I was able to track down these patents:
DE840217, 1952 (incorrect date, according to cleantex)
DE472272, 1929
All we need now is Eddie...
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Re: Bajazzo Clown game
Hello.
I think the machine from the first post is not a Giese-Bajazzo. The mechanics are based on the same principle, but are implemented completely differently.
What is safe to say is that the machine was made in the late 1920s/ early 1930s.
-- and now some more or less useful information:
At that time there were over 20 different companies in Berlin alone that manufactured Bajazzos (Source: A letter from the Bajazzo company Eterna G.m.b.H. to the Berlin police on May 12, 1926).
These typical Berlin Bajazzos were later built in other countries as well.
Incidentally, there were also various manufacturers of so-called "One-handed Bajazzos". Giese wasn't the first. The Berlin company "Bajazzo GmbH Berlin Halensee" registered their one-handed model in early 1925, a whole year before Giese. The mechanics were almost similar to Giese's.
It is also not an incorrect date on Giese's patent from 1952. If you read the patent, it says: "Erteilt auf Grund des Ersten Überleitungsgesetzes vom 8. Juli 1949".
This means: With the help of a law, the validity of older patents from before the war was extended. (Here is a link with more information about the law in German: https://www.bgbl.de/xaver/bgbl/start.xa ... 8803477691)
So the old patent from Giese was simply renewed in 1952 based on a German law.
Joerg
I think the machine from the first post is not a Giese-Bajazzo. The mechanics are based on the same principle, but are implemented completely differently.
What is safe to say is that the machine was made in the late 1920s/ early 1930s.
-- and now some more or less useful information:
At that time there were over 20 different companies in Berlin alone that manufactured Bajazzos (Source: A letter from the Bajazzo company Eterna G.m.b.H. to the Berlin police on May 12, 1926).
These typical Berlin Bajazzos were later built in other countries as well.
Incidentally, there were also various manufacturers of so-called "One-handed Bajazzos". Giese wasn't the first. The Berlin company "Bajazzo GmbH Berlin Halensee" registered their one-handed model in early 1925, a whole year before Giese. The mechanics were almost similar to Giese's.
It is also not an incorrect date on Giese's patent from 1952. If you read the patent, it says: "Erteilt auf Grund des Ersten Überleitungsgesetzes vom 8. Juli 1949".
This means: With the help of a law, the validity of older patents from before the war was extended. (Here is a link with more information about the law in German: https://www.bgbl.de/xaver/bgbl/start.xa ... 8803477691)
So the old patent from Giese was simply renewed in 1952 based on a German law.
Joerg
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Re: Bajazzo Clown game
Fascinating information, Joerg - thanks.
I did notice that the mechanism was different in several ways from the incomplete one that showed up on German ebay in 2012. Also there's considerable variation in clown figures and other features of the various examples above. The instructions on Eddie's game are in Finish - made in Finland or imported from Germany?
I did notice that the mechanism was different in several ways from the incomplete one that showed up on German ebay in 2012. Also there's considerable variation in clown figures and other features of the various examples above. The instructions on Eddie's game are in Finish - made in Finland or imported from Germany?
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