Green Ray Television restoration

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The museum restoration PDF link documenting one Green Ray looked like it had evidence of paint on glass, with a later paper back added to that due to either missing paint or a missing art paper panel. One of the 'restored' versions looked like silkscreen but obviously new. I have not found good photos of original side panels to figure out what they originally were. The paper that was in mine clearly was not from 1931, but decades later with no evidence of what was originally there. If anyone has any photos of unrestored versions please share them here. For ones with paper posters did they appear to be printed posters or every one hand painted?
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Here's an original back-painted (presumably screen-printed?) glass.
The reverse image shows paint crazing on the glass.
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Thank you, that helps confirm the correct original side art. Was that photo of the Green Ray at Wookey Hole? Previously I only had front angle view of it, not a clear side view. I did get my side art made already, but it does not have the extra text with maker and patents applied for. Also, not knowing for sure on the original I added a black out layer behind the green portion which is what I would have expected based on pinball backglasses, but I see in the original photo it didn't have that, although it was a dark green so may have had the same effect. I don't know if original machines intentionally back lighted them, but on mine I have an inside light that is on in standby/attract mode and off in run mode to do that.

Also, when attaching photos, is there a way to rotate them? On my PC it is upright but when I attach it is on its side. It seems sometimes to get corrected later by someone.
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Artwork looks fantastic. !WORSHIPFULL!
I thought you said this was going to be a long term project! You seem to be motoring through the jobs. I would probably still be at the thinking about it stage. :lol:
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tim575 wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:42 pm...when attaching photos, is there a way to rotate them? On my PC it is upright but when I attach it is on its side. It seems sometimes to get corrected later by someone.
That's me usually. I've just added an image rotate option.

tim575 wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:42 pm Was that photo of the Green Ray at Wookey Hole?
It's my machine.
tim575 wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:42 pmI don't know if original machines intentionally back lighted them, but on mine I have an inside light that is on in standby/attract mode and off in run mode to do that.
I don't know either, but agree it seems to demand internal illumination.
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Thank you Pennymachines for the background info and image rotate.
I thought this would be one of my long-term projects but got on it quicker than expected.
Last step is newly printed cards using original fortunes, the 1/16" thick card medium stumped most modern print shops and with their modern equipment, but I found a 3-person specialty printer that uses an antique letterpress printer that looks like they can handle it.
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In the UK, Clive Baker sells a set of cards of the correct thickness printed for Green Rays.
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Thank you for the card lead. Is it a set like the referenced picture, generic fortune cards that would fit and work in green ray, or does he have a set specifically for green ray using original green ray fortunes?
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Clive used to stock Green Ray cards, but I'm pretty sure he no longer does :#:
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I thought this recently acquired photo may be of interest.
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